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artem_zin
03/25/2016, 7:32 PMgood idea is to keep as small amount of classes in the app as possible simple smile but, yeah, sometimes you need it - k
kirillrakhman
03/25/2016, 7:33 PMno seriously, multidex is actually faster with api21 - k
kirillrakhman
03/25/2016, 7:34 PMbecause the dex files don't need to be merged, all the libraries can be predexed - a
aaboyd
03/25/2016, 7:34 PMI'm using API 22 - a
artem_zin
03/25/2016, 7:34 PM@kirillrakhman: you’re talking about buildtime, I’m talking about runtime - k
kirillrakhman
03/25/2016, 7:34 PMthere's no effect on runtime on api21 - a
artem_zin
03/25/2016, 7:34 PM@aaboyd: 22 is minSdkVersion? - a
artem_zin
03/25/2016, 7:35 PM@kirillrakhman: more classes — longer instantiation of the process, bigger apk, bigger memory consumtion - k
kirillrakhman
03/25/2016, 7:36 PMthe number of classes and using multidex are completely orthogonal, you can have few classes and use multidex for added benefit - a
artem_zin
03/25/2016, 7:37 PMright, in that case yes. but usually people use multidex because of 65k methods limit - a
artem_zin
03/25/2016, 7:38 PM@aaboyd: what is api level of device/emulator you’re testing on? - a
aaboyd
03/25/2016, 7:45 PM22 - a
aaboyd
03/25/2016, 7:45 PMI only have to target one specific device - a
artem_zin
03/25/2016, 7:47 PMProbably just some build tool misbehavior if clean/rebuild helped… Device on API 22 should support multidex natively (if it uses ART) - m
michaelevans
03/25/2016, 8:31 PMi had this same problem. clean and rebuild helped me - m
michaelevans
03/25/2016, 8:31 PMbut i dont know why - m
michaelevans
03/25/2016, 8:32 PMi’ve also seen clean builds fail because java classes can’t interop with the kotlin ones, class not found exception. I read that it might be a conflict between the retrolambda plugin and kotlin one, but I don’t know - c
cdepillabout
03/26/2016, 3:55 PMHi, I'm interesting in using Kotlin for Android developement, but I'm wondering if there are any reasonable alternative languages for Android development other than Kotlin, Scala, and JavaScript (React Native)? - d
damien5314
03/26/2016, 3:58 PMJava 😛 - c
cdepillabout
03/26/2016, 3:59 PMAh, sorry, by "alternative" I meant "alternative to java" simple smile - d
deactivated
03/26/2016, 4:01 PM - c
cdepillabout
03/26/2016, 4:02 PMI'm coming from Haskell, so ideally I could use something like OCaml-Java or Frege, but I've never heard of anyone using them for Android development. - c
cdepillabout
03/26/2016, 4:03 PMOh, uhh, is @deactivated talking to me? Is @deactivated a bot? - c
cedric
03/26/2016, 4:23 PM@cdepillabout: : Java and Kotlin are the only reasonable languages to use on Android. Scala is too big and not supported, the other ones are dynamic so too slow - c
cdepillabout
03/26/2016, 4:27 PM@cedric: Thanks, that's what it seemed like from my research. I guess Kotlin it is then! K - a
artem_zin
03/26/2016, 5:02 PM@michaelevans @aaboyd ADT team added special button for you lol http://tools.android.com/recent/androidstudio21preview4available - m
michaelevans
03/26/2016, 5:03 PM\o/ - o
orangy
03/26/2016, 8:04 PM@deactivated: I strongly suggest you not confusing this community and choose another name. - c
cedric
03/26/2016, 8:08 PM@orangy: Do you know what's going on with slackbot and @kotlin spewing out random stuff? - o
orangy
03/26/2016, 8:11 PMLet’s move to #C0B8W32VA on this