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    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:08 PM
    Cause that's usually not a good idea to use
  • w

    witoldsz

    06/18/2017, 10:08 PM
    Not anywhere, just where it is safe to assume non null.
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:09 PM
    Say you have a java singleton
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:09 PM
    with a getInstance call
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:09 PM
    Like this
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:10 PM
    @User uploaded a file: Untitled
    -.java
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:10 PM
    Never ever ever returns null
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:10 PM
    You'd be marking that as CoolSingleton?
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:10 PM
    Which is ridiculous
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:10 PM
    T!
    puts the responsibility of researching the possibility in the hands of the programmar
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:11 PM
    Babying someone because they can't do research would hinder other people
  • w

    witoldsz

    06/18/2017, 10:11 PM
    I would be happy to have to mark it so if that would save my app from crashing when calling some other code. I would pay that stupid extra 
    !!
    here to make it safe elsewhere. I just want my app to be safe, not to crash.
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:12 PM
    Research into the API you're calling would have the same effect
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:13 PM
    your choices are 1. deal with it, 2. tell the devs to use JSR-305
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:13 PM
    That's about it
  • w

    witoldsz

    06/18/2017, 10:13 PM
    But you are still not listening my biggest concern. When looking at Kotlin code I do not see if the "other side" is safe, if it is Java or Kotlin. That extra 
    !!
    characters would let me know what is hidden there.
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:14 PM
    You're not listening to my biggest concern
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:14 PM
    That would make a ton of false positives in code reviewing
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:14 PM
    And would hinder developers who don't need the extra babying and who can deal with flexible types
  • w

    witoldsz

    06/18/2017, 10:18 PM
    What do you mean by false positives in code rev?
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:20 PM
    Most code reviewers would flag a double bang as something that needs to be looked into
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:20 PM
    Because it's a possibility for a crash
  • w

    witoldsz

    06/18/2017, 10:20 PM
    You mean that people would get used to 
    !!
    and would start to ignore it when it makes sense to check for null?
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:20 PM
    Sprinkling double bangs everywhere because you want nullable platform types would cause false positives in the short term, and desensitization to the operator in the long term
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:21 PM
    Till someone gets bitten in the ass by that neglect, then the cycle repeats
  • w

    witoldsz

    06/18/2017, 10:21 PM
    That everywhere is only when you call foreign Java code, so I guess it would be a minority.
  • r

    redrield

    06/18/2017, 10:22 PM
    Most android devs would be using java libraries with their kotlin
  • k

    karelpeeters

    06/19/2017, 2:16 PM
    @david.bilik Maybe try to reproduce it in the most recent version first?
  • k

    karelpeeters

    06/19/2017, 2:17 PM
    Maybe it has been fixed already
  • d

    david.bilik

    06/19/2017, 2:21 PM
    1.1.2-5
    still not working
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