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elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:37 PMIt is going to be cross-platform. Span JVM/JS/Native - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:37 PMAs long as JS-side parser can be small that would be great. - e
elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:38 PMIt is quite small in the prototype. Purely Kotlin code. How fast it is going to be on JS is still a question. Have not benchmarked yet. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:38 PMIt doesn't have to be amazingly fast, just that the parser is of reasonable size. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:38 PMso what you can use it over websockets for your app. - e
elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:38 PMWe hope that is not much longer that we'll have to suffer with JS for Web. All our hopes lie in WebAssembly world. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:38 PMthat would be what vert.x + eventbus serialization to browser does. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:39 PM+100 - e
elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:40 PMWe will support JS still. Hopefully performance is not going to be a big issue, since you would not transfer lot of data into your front-end JS app anyway - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:40 PMsure - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:41 PMBut server-side is the key here. If this Erlang-like stuff can be done that would be huge. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:41 PMIt's more because of a mental model of programming in that way, than for performance. - e
elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:41 PMWe are getting there as I said. Feel free to post your suggestions/issues to github - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:42 PMThanks for taking the time to explain. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:42 PMAnd great work on Kotlin btw. - e
elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:42 PMThanks - e
elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:43 PMI am not a big expert in Erlang myself (only know it academically, never did production code in it). so a help from people with that experience would be highly appreciated. - e
elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:44 PMWe are trying to be unoppionated, though. Support async/awat (future-based), CSP, actors and other styles under the same roof. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:45 PMSure, but I think it will stay too abstract that way to many programmers. - e
elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:45 PMAll statically-typed, though. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:45 PMWe will need to create some more concrete implementations. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:45 PMYeah, that's great. - e
elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:45 PMIt is not for everybody. You need that to write scalable apps. 99% of devs don't need that - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:45 PMI mean, for somebody who does not have an academic background, nor opportunities to learn from an expert directly, it can be really too abstract. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:46 PMNo I think that's not the main point. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:46 PMI think the main point of Erlang etc. is not scalability, that is for sure there.... But the main point is thinking in processes. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:46 PMAnd for that you need stateful object + messaging. - e
elizarov
05/19/2017, 3:46 PMExamples & education. We're going to double-down on that. Starting from simpler patters like async/await - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:46 PMI mean, thinking in the sense that you have not 1 web server, but 10.000 web servers. - b
bjuretic
05/19/2017, 3:47 PMOr that you have not one stateless "order processor" but 1000 processors for a specific order.