@kyonifer oh really? I remember somebody else asked for that but I had no idea the automated JNI integration was implemented already. I need to play with Native more. It's inevitable that's where Kotlin is going.

yeah so they use it internally for their llvm generation code

so far they havent said if they're going to stabilize it for end users or not

there's discussion every now and then in the native channel

@kyonifer I can't imagine them not. It is a feature that makes total sense.

i've been staying away from it for now, so that i dont cry if they later rip it away from me 🙂

they also merged some multiplatform commits to master a few days ago, so the time might be soon that we can write multiplatform apps that target all 3 backends

they've also been really awesome at fixing issues. i've opened multiple issues where koma was breaking and they fixed them all within a day or three

all in all im impressed with the native effort

@kyonifer I can totally get that. One of the reasons I'm dragging my feet on Kotlin Native is it's hard for me to mess with things until it's stabilized and tooled. I'm optimistic too though. It's a phenomenal platform idea and its what I've always wished for.

So @orangy and @hhariri, I guess the biggest takeaway is this: Kotlin/Native can't come soon enough.

If you need to do linear algebra, use C/C++ for the time being!

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@czyzby it would be interesting though to see a bench of his approach vs EJML

First pass at my KotlinConf proposal. What do you guys think?

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I’m not the one responsible evaluating the proposals, but as a conference goer I’d want to see a bit more detail about how the session is going to teach about the domain. ie. are those practical use cases going to be demonstrated on stage? What kind of libraries might play a role in said demonstration?

@dalexander that's fair, let me see if I can find a way to fit that in the abstract..

Otherwise I think the structure of the proposal is good.

@dalexander updated. I'm glad you mentioned that because I want this to be much more hands-on and demonstrational than my last talk.

It's effectively "Kotlin for Data Science: Part II"

Cool, having the specific “see these things in this field” is good, and makes the proposed talk look much more attractive to me. 🙂

Hi guys I am seeking for a python pandas similar library in kotlin. Do u know there something?

@dominik.sittel Krangl or TableSaw

Thx @thomasnield. How mature are these libs ?

TableSaw is pretty mature from what I researched. Krangl is relatively new but it's development is still active last I checked.

I haven't played with TableSaw as much as Krangl, but it looks impressive. https://github.com/jtablesaw/tablesaw/blob/master/README.md

Thx @thomasnield . I would love to go with the kotlin lib ... Anyway I ll compare those libs and keep u in the loop

First impression on krangl : api looks really user friendly when u are familiar with pandas 🐼, great job ! For importing a csv there is really much missing for example u can’t choose semicolon as separator and u need a header in the csv. Hope to find the time to PR it