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    redrield

    04/04/2017, 8:18 PM
    Maybe
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    redrield

    04/04/2017, 8:18 PM
    idk it was just an example
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    redrield

    04/04/2017, 8:19 PM
    Was wondering if there are some things that Kotlin can't do cause of the JVM, that would be possible with native
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    redrield

    04/04/2017, 8:19 PM
    That's it
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    orangy

    04/04/2017, 8:19 PM
    Yep, sure. Instant start could be one example 😄
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    kyonifer

    04/04/2017, 8:20 PM
    if anyone's on archlinux, I've added a package for kotlin-native: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kotlin-native-git/
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    kyonifer

    04/04/2017, 8:20 PM
    examples seem to run okay, after you set 
    CFLAGS_linux=-I/usr/include
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    pcarrier

    04/04/2017, 8:32 PM
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    nimtiazm

    04/05/2017, 7:21 AM
    @okkero if they do something different according to what each platform offers, there won't be one language anymore
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    mg6maciej

    04/05/2017, 8:05 AM
    Konan!
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    zubzub

    04/05/2017, 8:54 AM
    I'm a bit confused with the Portability section in the interop.md
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    zubzub

    04/05/2017, 8:54 AM
    you can manually widen or shorten the size
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    zubzub

    04/05/2017, 8:55 AM
    but how do you know which one you need(?)
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    zubzub

    04/05/2017, 8:55 AM
    or what exactly is the section trying to say?
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    zubzub

    04/05/2017, 8:56 AM
    hmm
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    zubzub

    04/05/2017, 8:56 AM
    it seems there is also a typo
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    zubzub

    04/05/2017, 8:56 AM
    ?
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    nitrog42

    04/05/2017, 9:21 AM
    you need to use srand
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    nitrog42

    04/05/2017, 9:21 AM
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    nitrog42

    04/05/2017, 9:22 AM
    basically, Kotlin Native != Kotlin (which is Java), Kotlin Native is C language
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    mg6maciej

    04/05/2017, 9:23 AM
    Well, but if 
    Random
    related stuff was added to stdlib, I could compile my current codebase with both backends.
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    nitrog42

    04/05/2017, 9:25 AM
    by both backends, what do you mean ?
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    nitrog42

    04/05/2017, 9:25 AM
    Java and another language ?
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    mg6maciej

    04/05/2017, 9:25 AM
    JVM and LLVM.
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    nitrog42

    04/05/2017, 9:26 AM
    I don’t think it will work like that
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    zubzub

    04/05/2017, 9:26 AM
    iirc the blog post mentions that they did not implemented the jvm backend natively
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    zubzub

    04/05/2017, 9:26 AM
    as that would equal implementing a new jvm/jdk
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    nitrog42

    04/05/2017, 9:26 AM
    yes
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    nitrog42

    04/05/2017, 9:26 AM
    and it would be very difficult because C interop require memory management, that java would not need
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    mg6maciej

    04/05/2017, 9:28 AM
    From user perspective code using language with ARC can look just like GC. I'm not sure how it is related.
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