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michaelrocks
04/28/2016, 4:33 PMBut older code doesn’t use generics. So it calls
on an object of a raw type.get() - c
cedric
04/28/2016, 4:35 PMDoesn’t matter, that code is still there. For example, old code that compiles:Copy codeMap map = new HashMap(); map.get("a"); - c
cedric
04/28/2016, 4:36 PMNow type this with
and it no longer compiles.Map<Integer, String> - c
cedric
04/28/2016, 4:36 PMbut it should, it’s legal - m
michaelrocks
04/28/2016, 4:37 PMLooks like a bug simple smile And now it’s found and should be fixed. - c
cedric
04/28/2016, 4:39 PMIt’s not a bug. - c
cedric
04/28/2016, 4:40 PM
was defined without generics and this ripples through the type systemequals() - c
cedric
04/28/2016, 4:40 PMOverall, I think this is the only hole in the type system that the JDK 1.5 generics have brought to light, so not bad - r
rm
04/28/2016, 5:03 PMi'd have preferred to break old code than potentially break lots of future code with typing-related mistakes - r
rm
04/28/2016, 5:03 PMbut i'm not sun/oracle - c
cedric
04/28/2016, 5:39 PMBreaking code is really non negotiable for Java updates - a
andrewlmurray
04/28/2016, 6:06 PM@andrewlmurray has left the channel - k
kevinmost
04/28/2016, 6:44 PMI'd venture to say that the refusal to ever break backwards compatibility in Java is one of the main reasons that Kotlin needs to exist. Java might have been this good if we didn't care about code from 1.4 still compiling on 1.8. - c
cedric
08/12/2016, 5:38 AMCopy code$ uname -a MINGW32_NT-6.2 ******** 1.0.12(0.46/3/2) 2012-07-05 14:56 i686 unknown😀 1 - c
cedric
08/12/2016, 5:39 AMHid my machine name too, I don't want you to hack me - b
bamdmux
08/12/2016, 5:39 AMWindows is unhackable😆 2 - s
supaham
08/12/2016, 10:59 AMI found BOW a PITA. Doesn't work well with Java, and no support for xterm-256color which was annoying - s
supaham
08/12/2016, 11:00 AMJava 8 as far as I tested - s
sargunv
08/12/2016, 2:14 PMHaskell has issues as well on WSL - s
sargunv
08/12/2016, 2:14 PMbtw we're all calling it different things: LXSS, BOW, WSL - c
corneil
08/12/2016, 2:33 PMApparently there are problems with the shared memory implementation in WSL. Unless you disable the JIT using
you will probably just get a hanging program. With JIT disabled you discover what the people on the JVM team has really been doing.export JAVA_OPTIONS="-Xint" - c
corneil
08/12/2016, 2:34 PMCopy code
They seem really proud about the x86_64 thinguname -a Linux ******** 3.4.0+ #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 1 17:06:05 CST 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux - s
sreich
08/12/2016, 4:35 PMstill prefers linux, wishes he could use it for his day job, it'd save me a lot headaches that windows has that makes it kinda garbage for development👍 6 - s
supaham
08/12/2016, 8:19 PMi prefer linux for dev, but not for everything else i do - s
supaham
08/12/2016, 8:19 PMwhich included gaming, but i've thankfully started growing out of that - z
zoltu
08/12/2016, 8:40 PMI don't prefer linux for anything, despite having to use it at work (servers are all linux and computers are Mac). - z
zoltu
08/12/2016, 8:41 PMThis is probably because I am fundamentally against "scripting" in almost all cases where people like to script things. - z
zoltu
08/12/2016, 8:41 PMParticularly for application development, rarely am I okay with a "hack" solution. If I need a tool, I'll write a tool that has test coverage, static analysis, etc. - z
zoltu
08/12/2016, 8:42 PMI know a lot of people like to do their deployments with bash (or whatever shell scripting) yet those deployment scripts are rarely resilient against adverse conditions. - c
cedric
08/12/2016, 8:42 PM@zoltu: with
, you can have both 🙂.kts