on ART, too?

Not sure it can be removed.

I don't think ART does escape analysis?

this kinda bums me out. I was under the impression that using inline methods is completely overhead-free

any JB guys that might chime in?

@kirillrakhman: In most cases it is. It can be slightly less effective than you might expect but it’s nearly the same as if you inline it yourself.

But for performance critical pieces of code you should check the generated byte code.

I do from time to time

however, sometimes I wish I didn't because it makes my code ugly

Javascript and php and other interpreted languages have had been handicapped by weak typing for ages and yet people love them for web development because humans love immediate gratification.

There's no waiting for a compile. You hit F5 and can see the result of your changes. In some editors, you don't even have to do that.

That was one thing that ppl disliked about GWT

Does anyone know how Kotlin's javascript output works? Is there any way to test changes without waiting for a compile? (significantly slower than java's)

@pabl0rg: that probably goes agains a common convention, but in fact Java (JVM) is more suited for instant viewing than Javascript. The fact that you can change code at runtime (and many frameworks still do) makes JS very hard to run incrementally, which is necessary to be quick (unless your project is one-script-tiny). On the contrary, JVM guaranties that things don't suddenly change, and provides a build-in support for replacing code on-the-fly (class loaders). For Android development with Java instant viewing is a norma (look at https://zeroturnaround.com/software/jrebel/). It works with Kotlin, but the speed of (incremental) compilation is slightly less. Bottom line: if you are talking about nodejs, you may try JVM and find out that it's quicker than they say. If you work in a browser, then you are bound by the speed of kotlinc + the speed of reloading in the browser.

Hahah, it's baaaaack

Getting closer to Lisp by the day. :^)

good morning 😄

Morning!

way too early 😕

Anyone going to participate in GitHub Game Jam? https://github.com/blog/2274-game-off-theme-announcement https://twitter.com/hashtag/ggo16

nah don’t think I’ll have time =(

couple of guys fromt he jgo do, as far as I know

May be @badlogic can build up a great team with Kotlin? 🙂

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@orangy I, anyways, have just real knowledge of backend game programming 😄

I always hated UIs of any kind 😄

(just ignore my UI question from a few days ago about angular)

Mind blowing fact: the dark theme is called darcula 😱