I think I’ve written half a book in answers/changes by now

funny, I was talking about

return@run

just yesterday on #C0922A726

😉

must finish before 1.0, must finish before 1.0, must finish before 1.0….

oh don't say you stole it from me 😄

I haven’t gotten there in General yet, a bit behind on the reading.

but once I do, I’ll add a smiley

I see

no worries

Back to languages topic: what do you guys think about non-textual languages, e.g. JetBrains' MPS?

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I think it is worth upvoting: https://twitter.com/hhariri/status/684990722467065856?s=09

And by that time they're lagging behind on other things...

It won't appear until Java 10 at the earliest & by that time everyone will have switched to Kotlin 🧌

earliest

A lot of interesting talks on that event

yeah

devoxx is awesome.

If now people switch to Kotlin because of "neat syntax features", in a year all you are gonna hear is "coroutines", which are a head above everybody else on the market. Not a lot of sense for Java to "chaise" Kotlin. They are rather correcting what they can

I’m more interested in the JVM changes than Java changes. The decisions made in Java 1.0 influenced many languages to follow, but I don’t see it as being anything other than a “me too” language after the decisions made around adding lambdas. So new Java will be better than old Java but worse than many current languages to write in (not that Java is particularly bad).

I'm particularly looking forward to Kotlin adopting Valhalla

me too, are there any plans on that?

I'm pretty sure it's too early for that

the JVM has to adopt it first.

that’s years away

I am afraid Oracle will screw something up earlier

puh running mvnw inside Dockerfile to resolve / store dependencies of the kubernetes discovery plugin for hazelcast 😄

tasks you don't need

Friends, I need a big favour from you

I need your feedback on this issue https://github.com/MarioAriasC/funKTionale/pull/15#issuecomment-263913959