Spring has first-party support for Kotlin

Does it work with spring boot? I also want this to be fun 😁

Definitely. You can also just use any Java framework ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Discovered this one recently which is pretty lightweight: http://sparkjava.com/

I was hoping for a Kotlin first solution.

“Spring” and “fun” in the same sentence? 🧌

have a look at #ktor being developed by some JB guys https://github.com/Kotlin/ktor

@cedric my point was that spring isn't fun 😁 @jk I was looking at that earlier. Do you have any experienced with it

I haven't myself. You could ask on the #ktor channel

The spring initializer site let's you choose kotlin... Not sure what more you want 😂

i wouldn't use it, but i've been working on https://github.com/danneu/kog (wraps jetty) to learn kotlin 😛

well, i use it on some toy servers. it's not like i wrote my own http stack.

@eygraber Using ktor as our API backend for several months in production. I would consider using it as "fun" (compared to other frameworks)

Fun as in "pleasant to use" or as in "it's a joke"? ;)

As in "pleasant to use" 😄 The documentation of it is rather a joke, but the project has a very good structure with a lot of examples that can be interpreted as "documentation", so I would recommend to use it.

However, compared to fully bloat frameworks, ktor doesn't need much documentation, as in my opinion most of it is really self explanatory.

Glad to hear, thanks! As for docs, we are on it

@orangy what does the reload workflow look like as you make changes to your ktor app?

I think specific questions would be better to ask in #ktor, but it’s just reloads whatever packages you ask it to reload. It doesn’t restart a server, just reloads app inside the host

i was hoping that i could just throw jrebel at my hobby server, but it's not so easy

It doesn’t work like HMR in JS, doesn’t keep data, etc. Just reloads an app.

right

It is said that stateless apps are the future 🙂

With some proper separation of modules, you can make it reload just some parts of your application and keep others, but it’s tricky

i was reading the ktor impl when considering having a go at it, but it stopped looking like a fun weekend project 🙂

You mean reading the impl stopped to look like a weekend project, or ktor stopped? 😄

Funny how today several statements/questions are ambiguous…

the impl stopped 😛

nah i get it, you're eager to know if ppl had issues with ktor 🙂

Of course, and also fix them!