Yeah I've not used Lombok myself, so difficult to say, but what I like is that that this is first class language level support in Kotlin, and Lombok is a sticking plaster for Java 🙂

Albeit by the sounds of it an effective one

Lombok = Kotlin data classes

DSLs, modern language, functional programming. Same can be said for using Scala on the backend

benefits of Kotlin on the backend depend very much on whether the backend framework you use embraces Kotlin. If it does, like in Spring, it gives you a lot of cool DSLs

otherwise, I would say the benefits are minor

IMO Kotlin's Java interop is so good that I don't really care that the framework isn't made with Kotlin in mind. I've used Kotlin and Dropwizard on multiple projects and never felt like I needed a more Kotlin-friendly framework

oh, I completely agree that you can use it, and, if you know and like Kotlin, you probably should. But I assume that the original question was more of “is it worth the effort to switch if you are a Java developer who does not know Kotlin”.

And for that question I would say the gain is much greater for Spring that has good Kotlin support than for Dropwizard, that has no special support for Kotlin extras

when i introduced kotlin at work i chose to not use the kotlin-extension for the framework in the project (sparkjava)

it really helps ease the transition, i think

One of the biggest pluses for us was that introduction of kotlin allowed us to remove our functional library, which we'd introduced to our Java codebases because the java8 collections apis are so appalling.

Well, that and the massive reduction in boilerplate 😀

Since it's common to have to parse command-line arguments when running server apps from fat jars, I'd like to share this awesome (not mine) library with the channel: https://github.com/xenomachina/kotlin-argparser

looks useful thx 👍

kotlin in action was released way before coroutines became a reality

kotlin coroutines are still experimental (even if they are great)

the current API is even located in an

experimental

package so, be careful about using them for real

Please use and report any issues 😄

hey i followed the given steps in the link

for STS with Kotlin

i am getting error

@psycoderblog uploaded a file:

Those instructions appear to be quite old. Maybe there is some incompatibility somewhere?

You generally get best results with Kotlin if you use IntelliJ

ok thanks

If using an IDE, then IntelliJ is the bomb-diggaty, especially for Kotlin. That said, you can do with notepad or vi. The simplest Spring way to use Kotlin is this: https://spring.io/blog/2016/02/15/developing-spring-boot-applications-with-kotlin

or this: https://kotlinlang.org/docs/tutorials/spring-boot-restful.html

ok thanks