in the past per really wanted to downplay the feature

i think he's changing his mind though

@tipsy can you comment on the static/non-static thing with instance mode?

he's always using it for kotlin

it would make sense to have a consistent API being pushed across languages. And the "instance mode is for advanced users" is a bit strange IMHO 🙂

It’s a pretty old and outdated mindset

yeah, his argument was that sparks popularity came from the simplicity of the static api

there are a lot of discussions about it on the tracker

the instance api doesn't set statics, if that's what you were wondering

hmm - in my particular network, it's basically avoided because of the static thing affecting testability - so it's a shame that it's not advertised! 🙂

In my case, the static API is what made it impopular

Even more so since it’s advertised as designed to be embedded.

static

goes directly against that goal.

yes, i think he's aware that a few people will be put off by it, it was mostly senior engs arguing for an instance api

I'm not sure that junior engineers are that junior! 🙂

the static api confuses all the junior devs at my company

lol

they have no idea how spark starts

which is understandable

yes - the auto-start thing is quite an odd addition TBH - probably well meaning, but a little obsfucating of what is going on

i used to love it

I think (especially in Kotlin), the type system good enough to make APIs idiot proof without resorting to magic.

@tipsy this isn't a #confessions channel!

😄

my name is david and I used to like eclipse

my name is also david, and i also used to like eclipse

i still have

ctrl+d

in intellij

Me too! I still do, but I used to too.

@cedric do you use eclipse for kotlin development?

No I haven’t used Eclipse in a few years but I still like a few things about it