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    melonstorm

    11/25/2015, 11:48 PM
    Oh, and before you think it's gotta be bulky and require tons of boilerplate code, well, have this.
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    melonstorm

    11/25/2015, 11:48 PM
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    andreasbackx

    11/25/2015, 11:49 PM
    How does it scale?
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    melonstorm

    11/25/2015, 11:50 PM
    As far as I'm aware, really well, though naturally, the way you write your application also matters.
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    melonstorm

    11/25/2015, 11:50 PM
    There's the Spring Session project which allows for app server independent clustered sessions.
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    melonstorm

    11/25/2015, 11:51 PM
    Backed by Redis, but you can substitute your own store, as it supports stores that provide a 
    Map
    implementation, like Hazelcast. (Or you can use a 
    ConcurrentHashMap
    if you wanted to, like for test purposes.)
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    melonstorm

    11/25/2015, 11:54 PM
    Oh, yeah, it also makes it really easy to externalize your app's configuration.
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    melonstorm

    11/25/2015, 11:55 PM
    Which is one thing that a twelve factor app needs.
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    melonstorm

    11/25/2015, 11:55 PM
    Anyway, caveat emptor, @andreasbackx:

    http://i.imgur.com/UgFnjzK.png▾

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    melonstorm

    11/25/2015, 11:56 PM
    I tinker with it a lot, but I don't have anything important in production. Or anything at all. :P
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    melonstorm

    11/26/2015, 12:01 AM
    Though, if I'd write an important app, I'd personally use it.
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:08 AM
    Thank you for your input.
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:08 AM
    Just looking at every option available.
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    melonstorm

    11/26/2015, 12:12 AM
    Also, modern Spring doesn't need XML configuration anymore.
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    melonstorm

    11/26/2015, 12:19 AM
    andreasbackx: What are you using right now?
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:25 AM
    melonstorm: we're just looking for something new for a new project
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:25 AM
    I currently use Python mostly
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:26 AM
    But I also do Android
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:26 AM
    (Which I want to use Kotlin with soon)
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:26 AM
    Some Go, Swift...
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    melonstorm

    11/26/2015, 12:29 AM
    The only gotchas I've noticed so far in regards to using Kotlin with Spring are these:
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    melonstorm

    11/26/2015, 12:31 AM
    - Spring plugin for IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate is a bit wonky in regards to Kotlin support and may not put icons in the left gutter (but I expect JetBrains to fix this eventually - this doesn't affect functionality in any way, just productivity if anything)
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:31 AM
    Is there a page like this for Spring? http://sparkjava.com/documentation.html
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    melonstorm

    11/26/2015, 12:32 AM
    - The "main" class of your Spring app might look a little ugly in Kotlin
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:32 AM
    Spark doesn't look very scalable
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:32 AM
    It is like the Flask (Python) of Java
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    melonstorm

    11/26/2015, 12:33 AM
    - Your 
    @Configuration
    annotated classes and `@Bean`annotated methods need to be 
    open
    (Spring tells you about it if you miss it and try to run your app, this is just Kotlin making everything 
    final
    by default)
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:35 AM
    I'm reading some stuff about a beans.xml file
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    andreasbackx

    11/26/2015, 12:35 AM
    Looks a bit annoying and redundant
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    melonstorm

    11/26/2015, 12:35 AM
    You don't need a beans.xml file in modern Spring apps at all.
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