Yeah. Enough said. Hehe 🙂 I fixed the First Name repeat typo on the JavaFX example btw.

I will talk a little bit about how this code does exactly the same. There is nothing left out, and no parts of the JavaFX API is hidden. That's a very important point to me.

The TornadoFX example expresses every piece of intent that the JavaFX code has, but with a lot less swearing.

I learned javafx and lambdas at the same time - when something wouldn't compile - all the type noise makes for a lot of head scratching...

when I learned javafx I got lost so often in all the boilerplate, you need a factory and a columnfactory and you need to add everything in the right order

every time I do it I end up doing copy / paste / modify because I can't remember all the pieces

yeah and after the fourth time you copy and look and think 'now why did I do it that way?'

because it compiles 🙂

I had the exact same experience. And then you need to create a column factory only to customize the column it becomes even worse.

for me that is usually not enough

I got confused because of types, verbosity, that you need to declare a factory to declare a column etc. So much that has nothing to do with your intent.

exactly!

I'm hoping to create some waves early on by comparing JavaFX code to TornadoFX. I want to make sure I'm completely fair with the JavaFX examples, so I need your help to go over them soon, guys.

Can anbody tell me what the JavaFX idomatic way of creating a Name column would be? It would need to concatinate first + last.

Karsten Lentzsch (jgoodies) says that "FormLayout makes simple things easy and the hard stuff possible" - same thing kind of applies to TornadoFx

I remember that from back in the day :)) We even make some hard stuff easy, actually 😁

I think the Form functionality is one of those killer features that's easy to overlook

@gtnarg Good point, I'll be sure to include a sample of that too. I won't compare it to anything in JavaFX though, just an image.

you might want to compare it to equivalent GridPane code

going to take the dog for a long walk, see you all latew

@gtnarg Yeah, I could, just to show how much code it would be.

Oups, 18 hours left to submit a talk to KotlinConf. Better get started.

Seems like a much easier process to submit to KotlinConf, so I'll do it tonight 🙂

@User uploaded a file: Name Column and commented: If I didn't want to add a fullNameProperty on my pojo which is bound, I would probably to this...

@gtnarg Thank you! Yeah, I will mention that as an obvious alternative 🙂

@gtnarg How would you define this column?

By giving it the actual person as a value?

new TableColumn<Person, Person>?

I actually wanted to show how to create a cell, not a value factory. But for the use case I presented it's probably better to change the value. OK, I need to come up with another example.

Maybe an Age column, and color it red if age < 18.