@nimakro I also added the button in the CapsLock position as a switch to layer 2, and added the IJKL arrow keys etc like they are on the POK3R.

@ktw About the order of

useTextField

vs

cellFormat

the best I can do is add a warning:

if (cellFactory != null) FX.log.warning { "useTextField overrides existing cellFactory. Consider placing any cellFormat or cellDecorator calls after useTextField" }

@edvin Yeah the problem is that I know already why to much about kotlin and tornadoFX and my most of my audience doesn't know anything of both... So it's quite hard to make simple examples but still show the cool stuff

@nimakro I feel the same way. I want to explain everything at once, but it might be a blessing in disguise just giving a teaser in 20 minutes!

@edvin My tax money actually arrived the other day so I will order mine as well😆.. did you get the one with the rgb one or without?

@nimakro I'd like to do a live coding session on stage with a wireless ergodox attached to each hip. Maybe JavaOne 2018 😁

@nimakro I didn't order the shine version. I have no need for LEDs. I ordered with Cherry MX Blue and white/printed keycaps. I'll keep all the printed keys as they are, with possibly just a few exceptions.

@edvin That would be fun 😎

@nimakro haha, yes 🙂

I like that the printed keycaps are DSA, that's another reason why I went with them.

@edvin I was thinking to get the rgb version to use it to show on which layer I am on 😉 not sure If it is needed

@nimakro I find that to be very annoying with the POK3R actually. And I will probably only switch layers by holding down keys, so I'll already know which layer I'm on.

@nimakro This is the layer I'm playing with now: http://configure.ergodox-ez.com/keyboard_layouts/kwraro/edit

@edvin sounds good. It's good to have a warning. seems tricky to fix. The only thing I could think of is a separate TableView.textfieldColumn builder or moving the choice into the column builder instead of calling useTextfield on a TableColumn instance but that would break the api.

@ktw Another option would be to reimplement the cell functionality returned by

TextFieldTableCell.forTableColumn()

and implementing it in cellFormat cellFormat directly. That's a larger undertaking, but doable in the future.

@nimakro My Layer2 has all the POK3R goodies I'm used to.

@edvin Nice I will let you know when I have mine, then you can share your layout with me 😉

@nimakro I will 🙂 I want to explore a better place for Esc. I find that I hit it an awful lot, and it's the key that's hardest to reach on my POK3R (or any keyboard really). Looking at buying a customized one from http://falbatech.pl as well. It's actually cheaper, and they send from Poland, so it will be much quicker for me at least.

@edvin Hehe you are crazy you just bought an ergodox ez and now you want to order another one 😎

@nimakro I didn't realize how long three weeks can feel like.. And then shipping from Taiwan on top of that! Grr...

@edvin Hehe

@edvin that's because you're used to java talks 😬

@carlw Haha 🙂

I need to create a code sample for the Type Safe Builder slide. Suggestions for a small hierarchy I can show?

Line chart?

Definite hierarchy/compose with chart, series, set

I wouldn't have space for the actual data I think.

I want a complete example with screenshot, no missing pieces 🙂

I was thinking of a loop with a kotlin range

That could work 🙂