I tried. Charts doesn't really showcase that you can see the hierarchy of what you're building, so I think an example with some nested layouts would be better.

I think I will add a separate Chart slide though.

Done 🙂

Good. Charts aren't the most interesting in terms of app design but everyone writes reports at some point. Ex an interactive data science plot with a line chart driving details

Absolutely, and it's a nice showcase for how simple that is in TornadoFX 🙂

@edvin Why not use the forms as an example to showcase the builders like the login you use already for the validation slide?

@nimakro I already have a forms screen, and I talk about validation etc there. My first thought now was to repurpose that for the builders slide, but now I'm thinking that the Forms component will be new to most watchers, so it is probably better to showcase layouts they already know about, like HBox, BorderPane etc.

@edvin yeah that's probably true

I'm experimenting with MouseFighter today as a way to get rid of the mouse. It's a lot better than the other software solutions I've tried so far 🙂

@edvin The ergodox also has key bindings to move the mouse 😉

@nimakro I know, that's why I started playing with this 🙂 But that's weeks away! I barely managed to avoid ordering the only one available on ebay yesterday! Phew!

I think my presentation is mostly done now. I need some help with the design, so I'll ask a guy at work to help me out tomorrow.

The greatest feature of controlling the mouse with your keyboard is that it's a lot slower than using an actual mouse. While you wait for the cursor to move where you want it to, you realize that you should have used a shortcut instead 😁

@edvin Hehe you will manage, I am curious if you like the ergodox 😉 Nice I am looking forward to the results of the slides... Just went through my presentation and I need 21,50 mins and I only give an overwie about the framework features, then I show a short example app the person-tabel-editor example and then I explane how you could implement this with the view's, type-safe-builder's and an

ItemViewModel

and at the end I quickly go over type-safe-css 🙈

@nimakro Would it be OK if you went a few minutes over 20 or will you be thrown out at the bell?

@edvin Yeah a minute or so is oky but not more because there will be like 8 talks in total 😉... I will just shorten my Kotlin introduction 😉

That's probably a good idea. You can't really teach Kotlin in 5 minutes anyway, so it's not that much you need to explain about it.

If anyone lives near Berlin, there's a mechanical keyboard meetup tomorrow: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6efuvv/berlin_meetup/. Someone's bringing a Topre Leopold FC660C!

Cool! I may or may not have secured another Ergodox with Gateron Brown switches, under the guise of not having tried Gateron switches. Feels like a legit decision.

Referring specifically to the tilting slider, but all these controls look useful

@thomasnield I'm on it!

Is GitHub slow today for anyone else? It's been awful from Norway.

@edvin Seems to be fine here in Germany.

@nimakro Thanks for checking.

I think I will do a screencast about this issue tomorrow: https://github.com/edvin/tornadofx/issues/345

@edvin I didn't notice any issues... but I didn't do any commits. Just browsing

Browsing was slow for me, but it seems to have stabilized now.

Hey guys just got done with my first

TornadoFX

-Talk at my university, if anybody is interested in the slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/17o6s922BYd_zWssBe9htZ0zv9Wpmlm6JVWVZMzFTJWA/edit?usp=sharing The talk was 20 mins and it was focused on `View`'s,

Type-Safe-Builders

,

Type-Safe-CSS

and

ItemViewModel

.

Oh and I totally forgot, that the presentation was in German, so it might not be interesting for all of you guys 😉

@nimakro Congrats! Well done :))