If those are kept up to date that is, don't know how well it has kept up with QT itself.

Well run into an FXML thing though. They have a ui designer

@edvin Would TornadoFX then support the "least common denominator" of different frameworks (with wrapper libraries for framework specific features)?

@Ruckus I doubt that... unless we really find value in abstracting different implementations for controls like button {}

@Ruckus That's the SWT way. It has it's pros an cons, but we don't have to go that route. If we only support Qt in the beginning, we don't really need to think much about that. I think today most interesting things would/should be possible to do with every toolkit though.

I think that it's not really that interesting that it's Qt under the covers, so we don't need to think about their ui designer. They would just be our vessel.

Alright, cool

I need to start playing with Native and QT. It would be awesome to get the binary benefits. Lets start with a few POCs of different approaches....

Sweet!

Doesn't look like http://qtjambi.org/ is being maintained, judging from their webpage.

Also looks like qt isn't free anymore? https://www.qt.io/what-is-qt/

I thought they had a base set of desktop components that were free, but other ones were for purchase... charts and stuff were for purchase...

Looks like it's only "free" if you are doing open source dev...

And I'm guessing the commercial components still aren't available, but not 100% sure...

There's got to be some QT out there that is OSS. If not we need to find a way to overcome that hurdle and see how licensing works, and how we can subsidize it somewhere.

Installed a couple more packages listed in documentation - no luck.

And I just talked to Hadi, he was visibility excited we are exploring it. He also said let's kill Electron with fire.

He's hoping we will have it ready for next year's kotlinconf

@edvin @thomasnield This would also be a very good fit for the next version of the fxlauncher. We could implement our own stubs and have a ui installer, this would allow us to install an java app without java being pre installed... exiting times 😉

Here is a licence overview http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/licenses-used-in-qt.html

@amanda.hinchman-dominguez It can't find the org.apache.http.client bundle, but I thought that was supposed to be in 12. Will try to look into this tomorrow.

@nimakro this idea was slightly confusing at first as this probably would no longer be called "fxlauncher" 😆

@nimakro Yeah! That has been my wish since day one 🙂

@thomasnield It would still be used to launch JavaFX apps 🙂

TornadoLauncher?

Sweet!

Has anyone established any libraries or patterns to help with testing tornado fx views and fragments with testfx? Running the whole app is easy enough, but I want to unit test each view in isolation

@edvin @nimakro oh I get it now. I'm slow today

@edvin @thomasnield is GTK+ is also an option for Kotlin/Native TornadoFX? I am pretty impressed with what Xamarin guys have done for Mono