so does Netbeans, but they are community efforts and not nearly as good as in IDEA

There are official plugins from Jetbrains. However, Netbeans plugin is not actively developed anymore 😞

Don't get me wrong, I love Jetbrains products and I think they do a lot for the OSS community, so I'm not knocking them in any way. I'm just saying, Kotlin is either a revenue generator (directly or indirectly) or they would not be putting the amount of energy into it that they do. They simply put too many resources into Kotlin for there not to be a revenue angle.

I agree. All companies, and their projects, need a revenue model to sustain.

How about a TornadoFX messaging client backed by a certain Norwegian cloud hosting company? @edvin

@amanda.hinchman-dominguez can you put the image somewhere else and post a link?

@carlw That would get away from both Slack and Electron. Double win if you ask me.

sure, I'll post it on twitter. I'm not sure if it's possible to do what I'm suggesting for @pike but it follows the lines of z-indexing, only utilizing stackpane

I think you have the right idea: overlays. I think my next weekly TornadoFX post is going to be moving an ImageView from one container to another with a translated Rectangle tracking the operation. It'll use a layer in front to do this

@carlw I wonder how keybase chat would work for something like this. https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-chat

looks maybe too much an individual thing as opposed to a group or team thing

@carlw I've thought about it, but I think it will be harder to get users to use something TornadoFX specific. Here you have the whole Kotlin community in one place basically. It makes sense to go where JetBrains goes I think.

@edvin I'd love to see an open web approach to this. Something where all the non-PMs are published and searchable so that older converstations can be scanned by newcomers. Some type of category-based curating too in the form of tags (rather than whole new statically allocated channels).

@carlw I agree. Google should host something for free 🙂

I wrote a Bot with my son (copy+tweak) for the Discord messaging app. Maybe post certain #-enabled keyword posts to a web service for searching?

IRC?

@kastork I was just thinking that 🙂 Nothing wrong with IRC, and it doesn't require 100MB to show the initial list of messages like Slack does 🙂

Maybe it's time to support pluggable or at least configurable json serialization? What format would you prefer LocalDateTime to be in a json payload?

Can you define a textfield to receive only numbers?

Of course!

@carlw Cool, that will be the first format we support then 🙂

@carlw Maybe it's best to simply support configuring a formatter?

a formatter to pack with the json serialization code?

@edvin Before you write that code, do you want to look at other JSON providers? The one you have is 4 years old.

maybe bump the version up?

@carlw Is there a newer version of the reference implementation?

<!-- https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.glassfish/javax.json --> <dependency> <groupId>org.glassfish</groupId> <artifactId>javax.json</artifactId> <version>1.1.2</version> </dependency>