that's not a bad idea

Definitely 🙂 Hopefully we'll be in production by then 🙂

..his target market

Pragmatic programmers.. that's it!

@carlw I know I haven't sold you on the layout yet Carl, but one day you will see the beauty of ortholinear! In any case I'm looking forward to the day I can give you a complete boxed production ready TKO62.

dunno...i just handed off my nautilus gmk to one of my sons. i'm pretty happy with the RF

how's the configurator? any talk potential?

@carlw That's actually a good idea. I'll see if there are anything talk worthy in there.

if we pack in Kotlin Native for the USB hex file transfer it would be accepted for sure

The plan for now is to use dfu-programmer, but we'll see how things progress.

you're integrating with a System.exec?

@edvin you have got 78 to submit a talk 😉 https://sessionize.com/kotlinconf/

@nimakro I'll be busy with the VMC until the middle of March, then I'll submit a talk if I'm able 🙂

@carlw Using

ProcessBuilder

@edvin I wonder if there's an integration more at the JNI level with Kotlin Native -- for a talk 🤔

@carlw I'll look into that 🙂

But the app is TornadoFX, so I don't think that's on the table really

yeah...i think that would actually be good overall for the project. we could start repackaging native binary code with great TornadoFX UIs

say you have a media player, or screen capture, or messaging app in native code...use that and write the portable UI that's easy to maintain

Absolutely. We have to get there, but Kotlin Native also has to be complete.

I've done this with JNI. Maybe a Kotlin / JNI interface to dfu-programmer that we bring into the UI. since it's a talk we can leave the portability to all the different platforms as an exercise for the audience 😬

although a general strategy of working with shell commands would be interesting too

Yeah, good plan. I've made an abstraction over shell commands in Kotlin actually, but it's not that interesting.

the Arduino IDE comes with dfu-programmer and is available on Win, Mac, Linux. Maybe we could pull together those binaries in a platform-specific profile?

I run the IDE on all the platforms here

@carlw That would be a fun little project indeed 🙂

It's bed time for me, got a fever as well so I'm packing in early. Have a good evening guys 🙂

ok. hope you feel better. sounds like we have a tentative 5! i'd love to get that number up!

Thanks 🙂 And yes, I hope more of you guys will join us in Amsterdam!

Good night @edvin and get better soon.... Fun times looking forward to finally meet you guys 😉