mm, probably not

but I'm afraid that all of that doesn't solve your issue…

Hey guys did you sign up for any workshops at kotlin konf?... are we planing on doing some tfx planning and hacking? (@thomasnield, @carlw, @edvin, @mikehearn....)

@nimakro unfortunately, I'm not going to the conference. however, i'm definitely interested in the planning and hacking. I have an intern who started this week who will be working with tornadofx code once he's up-to-speed with kotlin

@nimakro I'm hoping my talk gets accepted for KotlinConf. I've been using TornadoFX heavily and advocating it in the data science space. Regarding roadmap I'm just holding my breath for JDK 11. I'd like to explore a Native implementation too

I really think Native will be the next big thing to hack... as well as helping take over stewardship of JavaFX

@thomasnield it is just missing a real charting library 😉

@thomasnield http://bjonnh.net/share/d3grf-2018-05-09_19.55.21.mp4

@bjonnh Gerrit Grunwald has been working on something promising. https://github.com/HanSolo/charts

It is still pre 1.0 but data2viz looks promising

I did see the HanSolo/charts one, but it didn't move much the last few months, no css, no doc… so it is not production ready yet

is there a plan for getting tornadofx (or compatible) on Native?

i doubt it (speaking for myself). i follow along the Swift Linux effort and have noticed that although I can run Swift programs, they aren't very useful without a port of UIKit or some other framework.

when I last checked in, the developers were talking about Swift/GTK+ bindings. that doesn't help running on Windows which would need Swift / Visual C++ Runtime bindings

there aren't a lot of cross-platform desktop frameworks.

though there are some emerging alternatives that aren't really desktop frameworks like Steam and Electron

...comparing JetBrains vs Apple in my Kotlin Native versus Swift Linux analogy in terms of resources

Being able to use Qt would be nice

Kotlin Native / Qt bindings?

yeah

have you done a lot with Qt?

with Python and C++ a little bit

nothing really fancy

i'd like to put up a Qt / JavaFX comparison on the Raspberry PI

but with the source opened up

yes I did follow that conversation

that would be nice. I found JavaFX to be pretty quick, I was surprised by that demo

i think that may be limited to SplitPane. it's not the speed because if you saw my video, once the drag was initiated, the tracking was fine

I think I missed your video though