the requirements would be to specify offsets around sections of the screen that move together

@carlw We should probably both figure out what people want, and see what we could either fork or work off of. It might make more sense to make something more familiar to HTML5 developers if we were to create it from scratch.

you mean flexbox / grid? i think those map to what we have today

i was thinking of something like this: https://www.raywenderlich.com/160527/auto-layout-tutorial-ios-11-getting-started you specify the layout between the components and how they take up the available space

more relevant for the Pi or a tablet where screens get rotated a lot

@carlw Flexbox is the old and grid is the new or something, right?

Not sure what makes sense for JavaFX on mobile, so this needs thorough investigation and lots of input I think

those two CSS layouts came out at the same time but grid seems more capable. i can't think of why you'd use flexbox

I think that's the general consensus

my suggestion would supplement the flow pane to make a portrait->landscape transition easier

@carlw Is iOS AutoLayout like Android ConstraintLayout?

for example, if you had a row of 3 buttons in landscape mode, you might want to convert this to a stack of three buttons in portrait mode or if the screen couldn't display the full row

(I'm not familiar with iOS)

flowpane would give you 2 buttons, with one trailing. then, you'd eventually get the 3 button stack if you shrank the width enough

@Ruckus i'm not familiar with android 😬

@Ruckus when i last worked on an ios app, i though they handled the portrait vs. landscape well. it was general enough to handle new sizes that came out the following year for phones and tablets. however, the type of layout that the customer wanted was specific and not free-flowing (which would have looked misshapen)

It's been a while since I've done Android myself (before ConstraintLayout came out actually), but from what I've seen it appears to be a good solution to a number of issues I had back in the day.

From my cursory reading, it looks like Androids ConstraintLayout is basically just the Android version of iOS's AutoLayout.

yeah. i might get to an android app at some point

I've only ever had Android devices, but I've heard iOS development is a more pleasant experience.

i had hoped that javafx scene builder would grow into xcode but that hasn't happened (and it's why i'm here)

...more specifically interface builder

Did you hear javaFX will be removed from JDK11 and will become a separate lib

@carlw I am not polling plain HTTP, I use the engine.executeScript and I send my arrays as strings to js functions with that

You mean when you were using LineChart?

yes

no

sorry

I was using LineChart and pushing the data directly to it

and now I'm using plotly.js in a webview and pushing data through executeScript