@Kevin the problem you hinted at with the find() is that the views are getting coupled. They're subviews ("panes"), but I'm factoring out their data into Controllers. For example, topic and topicList represent the program state and don't need to be embedded in a block of pure UI code

In Xcode scene builder is awesome ☺️

Scene Builder never got past the xib level so there's no storyboard for navigation

What sort of navigation?

going from screen to screen

esp. with the NavigationUIController

and segues

I avoid FXML like the plague

By scene builder you mean apple’s ui Kit? It supports segues and navigation tools

both. and that's the point. their's is an integrated environment where shapes get dragged and add binding statements. NavigationController is completely missing from JavaFX and is built into the Storyboard. Prototyping is good as you can use the XCode Repl to run a UI and the layout manager is good with alternate screen sizes (iPhone -> iPad in landscape)

and i haven't worked with iOS for a few years

I’ve uploaded three apps to the AppStore store within last 6 months, and designing things took 35%< of total time for development In current project, with 40000+ rows, it took almost a month and still nothing serious, that’s painful

In Xcode you can avoid kit and implement everything programmatically, not sure it would take less time than javafx

@Kevin Stay away from init{} when you're doing UI-related operations. Rather, use onDock(). Then you're guaranteed to have the event thread going. I see you put some defensive runlaters in but they can lead to timing problems because they don't guarantee a sequence. Worse, they can be confusingly deferred.

@Kevin converted the screens except for LogPane. MessageView is broken as that's not a registered TornadoFX component and we need to do something to mainline it. Here's my repo https://github.com/bekwam/kafka-gui

Rigging at JavaZone!

Norway’s Craigslist equivalent is writing Kotlin :)

One of the guys made an arcade machine for the stand :)

really cool stuff! @edvin at least you have time to go to whatever cool talks to you want to go to!

Take more pictures so we can live through you 😄

anyone made a slack client in tornadofx yet ? this electron crap is making me mad

@Nikky If slack has API support, it would be a fun project 😉

@abhinay @Nikky they do, but as far as I'm aware it's mostly for slackbot usage. I always thought it would be cool to be able to have your own GUI as a bot but I don't know if it's necessarily possible

well i know people implemented native GUIs by reverse engineering the protocol.. but those apps die very soon after the pop up

slack bots are fun to make though!

seems like the maintainers notice how much of a PITA it is

i use matterbridge myself

and next time i make a bot it will connec to that api, and have access to all the platforms (it is connected to)

apparently this was a thing once: https://volt.ws/ but the download links point to nonexistant github releases and no code

this is cool - personally, I try to keep slack separate from my other messenger stuff cause mixing work and life happens too easily for me 😄