except openvr and ovr, they use jna in direct mapping mode (to optimize perfs, almost like jni)

@elect If you get a Kotlin project going, I'll clone it and take a look. I'll see if there's anything I can help with. I don't use Kotlin everyday (yet) so I'm always looking to stay sharp. If you start one, I'd put TornadoFX as a dependency even if you start with straight-up JavaFX

well, any contribution is really welcome, but I think we should first probe which may be the real case scenarios

sometimes I am used to start from those

@ron thanks!

Just a heads up on limitations with a JavaFX game engine: If you make it

Node

based, the lack of explicit z-ordering is a pain in the but, and if you make it canvas based, erasing can only be done in rectangles, not paths (which works fine for sprites, but if you wanted to allows generic shapes you'd run into issues).

I think the biggest JavaFX game library currently is FXGL (https://github.com/AlmasB/FXGL), which is already almost 40% Kotlin.

(I don't think it's being worked on any more though, last commit was in early October.)

I recall I already saw it somewhere

@edvin Did you see this? https://kotlinlang.slack.com/archives/speaking/p1479114010000047

@Ruckus Yeah…That’s why I recommended Sprite.kt. I think something game-oriented might benefit business applications. Not trying to be Unity or SteamOS

FXGL was the one I was looking at a while back as welll.

@Ruckus Hmm.. I should attend that thing..

@edvin If you somehow end up giving a talk on TornadoFX, make sure you record it. We all love hearing your voice 🙂

Haha 🙂 That would actually be cool, and probably smart, to see if I can do something on a stage without melting down. Good to know before Java One 🙂

If/when I ever do a talk on TornadoFX I'll be sure to use @Ruckus's sexy view transitions and use TornadoFX as a Keynote replacement.

🙂

@carlw Sprite.kt is a good idea

@edvin Building a TornadoFX slideshow with transitions is an excellent idea…it might make people dizzy, but that could be the basis for your talk

…a slide about a slide about a slide...

With any luck, I'll finally get time to implement some pseudo 3D transitions before then with the code @hansolo_ shared with me (though, he is much smarter than I, so I don't know how well I'll pull it off 🙂 )

@edvin yes that might be a good, casual dry run before we do bigger stuff next year

@Ruckus If you need a hand, create a feature branch and I can help test

@carlw Thanks, will do

slide inception @carlw 😛

I just have to now...

@Ruckus Would be cool to have a 3d cube transition!

@edvin Indeed. I'll have to keep that in mind.

This is a 3d transformation from camtasia

@carlw That is really cool. I had seen that before, but forgot about it. Very nice.