Yes, well..I have no intention of doing auto-layout for this.

@permalmberg So and you use the components to build logic for sensors and other automation devices?

@hastebrot Yup.

the only steps I took into automation was with a chatbot (no machine learning). but it's not easy to put logic into chat commands.

Textparsing is tricky, especially if the context can differ

it's very simple. like "?spiegel 5 trump" for "give me the five newest articles containing trump from spiegel online news".

Well, if isn't natural text you want to parse, then yes

I can use Wolfram Alpha for this "?q weather in hannover tomorrow". this will use wolfram alpha REST API.

mm, that's neat

It could be interesting, if I could build logic graphically that fetches data and use the chat interface to send paramters to the logic I built.

Using my system you mean? Any type of component can be built, I don't see a problem with doing that

I normally use the chat bot on my mobile / tablet devices when I'm outside. It's quite practical.

Yes, your system.

That'd be fun to see 🙂 Still some ways to go before I'd consider it stable though

@permalmberg One of my friends works on a (or yet another) graphical system for programming for his doctoral thesis. I think he'll finished the thesis (hopefully) by the end of the year. There are a lot of concepts from functional programming involved. But well, this is a bit off-topic for Tornado (it's implemented in Clojure/TypeScript/Facebook React)

I tried Elm. Never. Again. 😛

Elm is cool. I like it more than Haskell. I think Evan (the Elm guy) has a lot of interesting ideas. When it comes to reactive GUI programming Elm does it right (says the Cycle.js guy). React/Redux has some conceptional problems. The problem with Elm is, they are lacking men-power.

I've never seen the need to dive into functional programming..my elm adventure was just to see what it is about...

...can't say I saw any real benefits

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flag is added to fxlauncher. If you want you can do a release now

You need some hacks in OOP (like dependency injection). In FP you get it for free. Also immutable data structures, pure functions, et. al.

What you get in FP is a big mess if you ask me 😛 but lets not start a war over it 🙂

I know. It's very abstract. Things like this: https://github.com/m50d/tierney/blob/master/free/src/main/scala/tierney/free/package.scala

yeah....need I say more? 😛

import cats.~>

lol!

You should look into the documentation of the cats (for scala) library. Crazy stuff. But sometimes things like category theory is very useful. You can develop programs that transform DB tables and SQL queries and mathematically prove (after you took 4 semesters of functional programming and stuff), that you didn't mess it up.

Heh, sounds like a second job. No thank you. I'd rather follow the KISS principle and simply prevent the need to prove it 🙂

Yeah, it's scary stuff. I think Kotlin gets it right by just using the "reliable" and "understandable" parts of functional programming

yeah, it is on a manageable level

I mean, we can build UI applications with Tornado/Kotlin without much boilerplate code without the deep functional magic. that's important.