Why does calling this code from the main thread, s...

# coroutines

[Mark]

Why does calling this code from the main thread, sometimes result in an ANR (Android example, but relevant to any blocking java call)

runBlocking {
    withTimeoutOrNull(100) {
        runInterruptible(<http://Dispatchers.IO|Dispatchers.IO>) {
            telephonyManager.networkCountryIso
        }
    }
}

[Rob]

runBlocking blocks the current thread. If that is the ui thread this will cause an ANR. To not block the ui thread you'll want to use a coroutine builder. Recommended scope to launch a coroutine in is in a lifecycle owner of a ViewModel, Activity, Fragment, View or Process depending on use case.

[Mark]

Thanks, but my understanding is that runBlocking will block the current thread until the passed code block has returned which, in this case, cannot last more than 100ms which is well under ANR threshold on Android. Why doesn’t the combination of withTimeoutOrNull and runInterruptible give the desired results?

[Rob]

I see. I'm not sure what the threshold for a ANR is. 100ms is a long time and will already drop 6 frames at 60hz. Can you move this work off the main thread and resume on main thread when it's done?

[Rob]

Slow devices will also get worse results.

[Mark]

On Android, ANRs are reported after 5 seconds, or 10 seconds depending on the scenario. This is why I have the impression this code is not WAI. Perhaps runInterruptible does not make java blocking code actually interruptible by withTimeout ?

[Rob]

Oh right. Coroutines can only interrupt at certain points. If you run do a Thread.sleep(10000) inside withTimeout or runInterruptable it will still run to completion.

[Mark]

It shouldn’t matter if the runInterruptible block is run to completion. AFAICT, runInterriptible will anyway throw a cancellation exception when the timeout is reached. and so that should result in the runBlocking completing as intended.

[Rob]

You could try wrapping blocking code in a suspendCoroutine block. I think it will allow the outer coroutine to cancel.

[Rob]

I tried it with Thread.sleep(10_000) and it does get interrupted. Sorry I can't help.

[Rob]

But not using runBlocking on the main thread should prevent the ANR I think.

[Mark]

Thanks for confirming (regarding Thread.sleep). Yeah, it’s just common code that’s often called from non-suspending code.

[Mark]

BTW, here’s the main thread stacktrace if that helps:

jdk.internal.misc.Unsafe.park (Native method)
java.util.concurrent.locks.LockSupport.parkNanos (LockSupport.java:234)

kotlinx.coroutines.BuildersKt.runBlocking$default (Builders.kt:1)

[Mark]

Actually, going through the ANR dump, I see about 100 threads (mostly waiting ). Most of those are SQLDelight queries. So I wonder it’s an issue with running out of threads.

[Rob]

That seems excessive. Device might be slowing down due to too much IO?

[Robert Williams]

Sorry for the delay, a recent question reminded me of this and thought I'd copy here for completeness

[Robert Williams]

Java interruption, much like coroutine cancellation, is cooperative https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/essential/concurrency/interrupt.html

[Robert Williams]

If the function you're calling doesn't support interruption (which almost always means throwing InterruptedException in its signature because it's a checked exception) there's a good chance that runInterruptible will do nothing with regards to execution time

[Robert Williams]

Note if you try to test it with a common blocking function like Thread.sleep it'll probably work fine because that does support interruption but most Java isn't that well written 😅

[Mark]

Is there a way to simulate such a non-interruptible call?

[Robert Williams]

Definitely hard to do with a predictable delay because most of the common blocking operations (Thread.join, Future.get, BlockingQueue...) do handle interruption

[Robert Williams]

I think your best bet is some good old fashioned number crunching

for (i in 1..10000) {
            BigInteger("$i").nextProbablePrime()
   }

(takes about 1.5 seconds on kotlin playground)