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Edgar

08/02/2023, 10:42 AM
guys anyone can suggest free kotlin spring boot tutorial series
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Cies

08/02/2023, 10:49 AM
I'd go with a Java one and just write Kotlin
Also, I'd go with Ktor over SpringBoot, as I dont like annotation magic.
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Edgar

08/02/2023, 10:51 AM
@Cies I have done backend with ktor but I want to learn kotlin spring boot
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Robert Jaros

08/02/2023, 11:36 AM
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Edgar

08/02/2023, 2:15 PM
thank you
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Brieuc Le Faucheur

08/03/2023, 7:50 AM
@Cies how about spring boot with kotlin DSL_s_ ? Seems like magic is still here but not with annotation anymore and easier to track down 😄
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Cies

08/03/2023, 1:36 PM
Which DSLs do you mean?
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Brieuc Le Faucheur

08/03/2023, 2:18 PM
I think mainly of this one: https://docs.spring.io/spring-framework/reference/languages/kotlin/bean-definition-dsl.html Was thinking about Spring Fu too but this is not relevant as experimental (cf ☝️ page foot note)
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Cies

08/04/2023, 9:28 AM
Oh crap beans. Forgot all about them, and must say I've been happier since 🙂
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Brieuc Le Faucheur

09/12/2023, 8:00 AM
What do you mean by crap beans? Sorry I've been away some time 😂
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Cies

09/18/2023, 7:57 AM
I hate the bean spec. Prefer more immutable things like Java records or Kotlin data classes.