Following a remark on how to avoid :not-kotlin-but...

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[CLOVIS]

Following a remark on how to avoid not kotlin but kotlin colored in #gradle, a suggestion was made to split and rename the Gradle channel to make its topic more explicit. I think this is a good idea.

Original thread: https://kotlinlang.slack.com/archives/C19FD9681/p1700992044643729?thread_ts=1700970837.148929&cid=C19FD9681

Copying the proposal:
> We could split in 2 channels:
> • #kotlin-gradle-plugin
> • #kotlin-gradle-dsl
> That would leave no general Gradle channel.

[Stylianos Gakis]

That would unfortunately imply that the person with the question confidently knows if the question is about kgp or if it is about the kotlin dsl. I would say that most of the people with gradle questions are not even aware where their question would apply. Me included.
So I am not sure how much this would help.

[mbonnin]

Fair point. Maybe we should agree on the scope of each channel first.
• kotlin-gradle-plugin is the most well defined to me, it's about every API that is in kotlin-gradle.plugin.jar
• kotlin-gradle-dsl I'm not 100% sure actually. Does that cover accessors generation and the plugins {} block? Does it cover the assignment plugin? Does it cover Gradle embedded Kotlin version incompatibilities, how kotlinc is invoked from Gradle (not really DSL anymore)? more?

[mbonnin]

Maybe just keep #kotlin-gradle-plugin and redirect everything else to the Gradle slack?

[mbonnin]

Or we keep #gradle for general community help and we're ok with occasional more general Gradle questions.

[CLOVIS]

Maybe just keep #kotlin-gradle-plugin and redirect everything else to the Gradle slack?

I feel like that's worse than the status quo, because it blocks questions that could have been legitimate, but were not anticipated.

[mbonnin]

Do you have an example?

[CLOVIS]

Well, that's my point: if any example exists that we didn't think of, then it has no place to be asked. Whereas currently, it can be asked in #gradle

[mbonnin]

Ah, I see 🙂

[mbonnin]

At work we have a #ask-anything channel for such fallback questions

[mbonnin]

But if we can't find an example of legitimate question that doesn't belong in #kotlin-gradle-plugin then it's a good sign that we don't need a lot more

[mbonnin]

One example that comes to mind: How do I pass flags to the Kotlin compiler used to compile my build.gradle.kts . Is this a Gradle question? Is this a Kotlin question?

[mbonnin]

Maybe we should we ask in #naming 😄