Reading through some of the JEPs for JDK 22 makes me sad, but also very glad that Kotlin exists :swe...

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[eygraber]

Reading through some of the JEPs for JDK 22 makes me sad, but also very glad that Kotlin exists 😅

[theapache64]

😄 which part ?

[eygraber]

This round it was FFM and String templates

[agrosner]

Will they ever adopt true null safety? 😅

[Loney Chou]

FFM is good I suppose? At least it opens up a whole world. Template is kind of Javaish yeah.

[eygraber]

It's all good, but the implementations are all, as you say "kind of _Javaish_"

[Oleg Yukhnevich]

FFM is rather good, comparing to JNI
The API of FFM is minimal and a little ugly for a reason - it really should not be used without jextract (or other code-generator) - with it, the API looks more or less nice and strait-forward, I would say
FFM API is low-low-level API, and jextract generated API is just low-level API
In future (I suppose) there will be better APIs for some stuff. AFAIK even now there talks there regarding mapping struct to `record`s. And a lot more sugar could be added - though, I believe it would be mostly on jextract side (and it's expected)

Still, with Kotlin we could do better already, but it's a really hard task (cinterop is not a good API either)