Has anyone had experience with Kotlin/Wasm? What i...

# javascript

[gle.bushkaa]

Has anyone had experience with Kotlin/Wasm?
What is better to use Kotlin/Wasm or Kotlin/Js?

[Robert Jaros]

It depends on your goals.

[Robert Jaros]

Wasm is still experimental

[Robert Jaros]

And doesn't work in safari browser.

[Robert Jaros]

The bundle size is usually bigger.

[Robert Jaros]

This is the price you currently have to pay for greater speed.

[gle.bushkaa]

So, if I want to build simple web app, then I can use kotlin/js and dont care?

[Robert Jaros]

In general yes.

[gle.bushkaa]

What is preferable to use for ui, compose or kotlin html?

[Robert Jaros]

I'm building a framework which will allow to create web apps for Kotlin/Wasm and Kotlin/Js with the same code. You can check https://github.com/rjaros/kilua

[Robert Jaros]

And if you just want to use Kotlin/JS there are many frameworks, check #kvision, #kobweb, #compose-web, #doodle, #fritz2 and #react.

[Robert Jaros]

It's definitely better to use one of them instead of doing plain html.

[gle.bushkaa]

Which framework is easier to use?
I need to build simple mvp

[gle.bushkaa]

Im android dev actually

[Robert Jaros]

I'm the author of KVision, so I'm not impartial here 😉 But if you come from android world and want to build typical static website with kotlin/js, you should probably look at #kobweb.

[Robert Jaros]

Or just use compose multiplatform with web target.

[gle.bushkaa]

Question to you, as to author
Where did you find and learned such huge amount of information to build huge systems like this?

[gle.bushkaa]

Is it only for wasm?

[Robert Jaros]

compose? no, it can work with kotlin/js as well

[Robert Jaros]

I just like building frameworks 😉 I'm learning by writing code 🙂

[gle.bushkaa]

Im confused when I try to build even small navigation lib

[Nick]

author of #doodle here as well. i think @Robert Jaros gave a good overview of the options for web. Doodle also supports wasmJS and desktop.

[Arjan van Wieringen]

Compose HTML is great, it’s production ready and we have excellent results with it