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came across this the other day. ktor + html plugin + htmx to build "reactive" websites without javascript. very interesting! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OYn48xBzOY>

Yup! Hotwired Turbo is another way. I am building a Gradle plugin and minimal Ktor library atm to support the nobuildjs en Turbo inside Ktor. Including import maps and asset mapping like Symfony and others do 

Somehow a lot of people forgot the benefit of “normal” server rendered pages 

<https://turbo.hotwired.dev/|https://turbo.hotwired.dev/>

It is a little bit more opinionated then htmx. Besides that there is also Stimulus, which is a tiny JS library to add some interactivity. 

thanks im still new to this (im a long time android dev) so appreciate the pointers

<@U020KDMS14P> I'm curious about what you're building, anywhere to be seen?

<@U05FM2U5MT7> I am just experimenting atm. I stepped away from a Gradle plugin, which is way too complex. Atm I am busy with simple server side rendering and turbo experiments. I have some ideas here and there but not a lot of time. I am creating a basic Pomodoro Timer app which runs fully server side but is very responsive in client side 

My goal would be to have some opinionated library on how to build server side applications. Just like Symfony, Laravel, and Ruby On Rails. I am also dabbling with using compose runtime and websockets to create something akin to Phoenix LiveWire. 

A lot of people forget the benefit that working purely server side brings. 

<@U020KDMS14P> I agree with you, I've used Laravel for quite some time and I adored it

Thanks for the update