I've just noticed a new release, 2.0.20.beta1. Are we skipping 2.0.10?

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[Klitos Kyriacou]

I've just noticed a new release, 2.0.20.beta1. Are we skipping 2.0.10?

[Stefan Oltmann]

You are looking for sense in that, but I don't see why it's not 2.0.1-beta1 like semver dictates.

The same is true for the other Kotlin version numbers.

I guess "2.0.20" (two o twentie) just sounds good

[Klitos Kyriacou]

I don't think Kotlin releases have ever used semver.

[Stefan Oltmann]

Me neither as far as I can see. 😄

[Stefan Oltmann]

I see what you might refer to...

There is a tag https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin/releases/tag/build-2.0.10-RC-493 which is one hour old

[Klitos Kyriacou]

Yes, but that's just a tag. It's tagged as "release candidate" but there's no published release.

On the topic of semver, there is an advantage to not using it: I find it easier to remember a 3-part version number like 1.9.24 rather than a 4-part number like 1.9.2.4.

[Stefan Oltmann]

By only looking at this screenshot it indeed looks like a mistake

The release should be 2.0.10

The 2.0.20 versions are "dev"

The 2.0.10 was RC

[Stefan Oltmann]

On the topic of semver, there is an advantage to not using it: I find it easier to remember a 3-part version number like 1.9.24 rather than a 4-part number like 1.9.2.4.

That's a good point. 🤔

[Klitos Kyriacou]

I don't know why - it's just one extra dot, but it seems to make the number less snazzy, albeit more logical.

[Oleg Yukhnevich]

there will be 2.0.10, don't worry 🙂
2.0.10 - bug fix release for 2.0.0
2.0.20 - tooling release (https://kotlinlang.org/docs/releases.html)
2.0.21 - bug fix release for 2.0.20
and so on 🙂
It's just 2.0.20-Beta1

just in case, AFAIR, it's 2.0.10 and not 2.0.01 because some tooling/external service doesn't support such format

[Stefan Oltmann]

Thanks Oleg, that explains a lot 🙂

[ephemient]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2017/09/kotlin-1-1-50-is-out/#versioning-scheme-change

[Stefan Oltmann]

Thank you. That clears it up.

As always JavaScript is the problem. 😈 😄

[Edoardo Luppi]

So the tooling release is 2.0.20, and its bugfix release will be 2.0.10? That's what I got from the docs.

It's a bit weird having to lower the version.

[Edoardo Luppi]

Or if 2.0.10 is a bugfix release for 2.0.0, should I stay on 2.0.20, or go down to 2.0.10?

[Oleg Yukhnevich]

As I said in https://kotlinlang.slack.com/archives/C09222272/p1718711578775249?thread_ts=1718707481.900839&channel=C09222272&message_ts=1718711578.775249
No need to downgrade

[Edoardo Luppi]

Sounds good. Thanks!
It's still weird to have a 2.0.20 released before a 2.0.10, but I get how it works now at least

[Edoardo Luppi]

Maybe I'm too used to semver that I can't reason in other terms lol

[Oleg Yukhnevich]

2.0.20 is not released yet :)
It’s Just beta

It’s like having some library with version 3.2.0 and than 3.1.5 is released
Though, yeah, semver doesn’t work for languages I believe :)