:wave: Hello, team!

# compose

[Jolly]

👋 Hello, team!

[Chrimaeon]

👉🏻 https://nohello.net/en

[Chris Fillmore]

@Chrimaeon it’s fine to just say hello if it’s in fact just hello. What that website says is, don’t just say hello if you are leading to a question.

Telling a stranger they can’t say hello is pretty unfriendly.

[eygraber]

While that's true, there's almost 17k members of this channel who probably aren't interested in a hello from every new member.

[Chrimaeon]

It’s also in the Code of Conduct, that you should not do it.

While it's polite to say "Hi" or "I have a question" before asking something, it doesn't scale and leads to noise. You can say hello in the same message you ask the question if you like.

[Chris Fillmore]

Are we inundated with Hello posts, that it’s necessary to police them? I’ve been reading this Slack space almost daily for 4 years and have never noticed that problem.

It makes sense to be strict about some rules, such as keeping the discussion on-topic, because it would be easy for the community to devolve into off-topic discussion and memes, which would make it difficult for users to get support. But no such problem exists for people just saying Hello. Policing minor infractions of the code of conduct is anti-social.

[eygraber]

In this channel (and it happens in many others as well), every hello in theory potentially wastes 14 hours of time. Assume 3 seconds to get the notification (open the app, parse that it's a useless message, and go back to what you were doing). Now multiply that by 17,000. Of course not everyone is going to look at the message, but the point is you have to approach things differently at these larger scales.

[Chris Fillmore]

You get a notification for every new message in this channel?

[eygraber]

Not on mobile, but on desktop I have an indicator that shows me when there are new unread channels.

[Chris Fillmore]

Do you read every message in the kotlinlang Slack? Personally I just leave the channels unread.

[eygraber]

I read most of the messages in all of the channels I'm interested in, either so I can help someone else, or learn from someone else.