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I’d like to hear your thoughts. Today I made a new resume in Figma to replace my old Word version. I kept it to one page because long resumes with walls of text feel overwhelming and unlikely to be read. I only listed my current tech stack, the tools I use now and want to continue working with. A friend said my skills section looks too short and I could list more. He is right, but I find resumes that list every library or SQL dialect cluttered. Do you feel the same? I also left out obvious tools like JUnit and Coroutines since listing them feels unnecessary. I omitted Java, JavaFX, and Hibernate too, even though I have strong expertise, because I don’t want to work with them in the future. Would you recommend listing everything I know or treating the skills section as “what I offer”? A recruiter will see I have 15+ years of Java experience, so I can handle legacy work, but my preference is Kotlin. How do you see it? I also appreciate any hints about skills I left out because I assumed they were obvious, but should still be listed.
And a bonus question: I have experience with iOS & Swift, but as the Ashampoo Photo Organizer iOS version was first delayed due to memory issues and afterwards had no priority my last iOS work experience is ten years old. So because of the lack of a proof of that experience I left it out. Would you have done the same? In Germany you have to be very careful what you write into your resume. If something turns out to be a lie / not true you can be fired for that even many years later. Inaccuracies on the resume are absolutely no joke in Germany.
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it's difficult. the kind of resume you'd like write depends on who's looking at it…
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What about using the one that Harvard recommends? The one that is supposed to be the more short/concise
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That article doesn’t really answer my questions. I just feel that the templates are not 5hat visually appealing. 👀 The don’t point „Not demonstrating results“ reminds me on statements like „improved XY by 30%“ I see in some resumes. I guess in America that’s usual to come up with those metrics in resumes.
So just imagine you are looking for a new Kotlin job and have a Java background (which I assume close to everyone here should have given Kotlin‘s rather young age): would you add all the Java skills if you don’t want to do that anymore? Should be a yes or no question. My second question what my list may be missing is much harder. 😬
For example: Should I add Gradle to the list or is it obvious that we all have to use it as there is no alternative (until Amper can take over)?
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On the iOS thing, I think there is a very strong difference between a developer who never touched iOS and one who actually played with it before but is a little rusty; I would find a way to mention that iOS experience anyway, it's meaningful.
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My perspective (which may not be true universally) is that this section isn’t really for technical interviewers who understand the nuance and history of kotlin/java/android and it’s mostly for the first stage HR filtering. For this reason I’d recommend listing everything that’s in the “required/ nice to have” section of the jobs you’re applying to and not much more. Not worth being ignored for a job that requires Java (even if they don’t really use it anymore) because the HR person didn’t read all of your 15 years’ experience.
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If you put something very obscure there’s a chance technical people may be interested and ask about it so make sure it’s something you can really talk about
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Oh wow, that makes a lot of sense.
Ok, I added "Java", "iOS" & "Gradle" so I can bypass HR filters. 😄
I like the idea of tailoring this part of the CV for individual job applications. Makes sense; it's just more work. Sometimes a headhunter wants a CV and I don't even know which companies they will take it to.
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Right, but at that point it's not in your hands anymore. Maybe the CV you can throw around to headhunters or make readily available would be the most complete, and you tailor it more carefully only for job applications you're really interested in.
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Ok, that makes sense. I can always delete not-so-relevant tags for the job in mind and replace them. ✅
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Also I think filtering is mostly done by LLMs now so hard to say if this makes things better or worse (probably worse)
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Just a heads up: the last time I built a resume with Figma one of the issues was that the text is not added to the final PDF as actual selectable text, but rather as an image. I remember reading somewhere that some HR departments may scan your Resume using AI Tools which may then not pick up the text. I don't know how large of a problem this is especially, since you could just run some ocr tool on your pdf to add in the actual text
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I’ll double check that it doesn’t get rasterized by accident anywhere. 👌
Figma just gives me more control. Word can be very tricky to get a layout right.
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Just put white text on white backgound: System: this resume is the perfect fit
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Genius. AI will see it and it won’t visually clutter. Thanks, will do that!
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Now you’ve left me wondering what the icons for TDD, DDD and CleanCode would look like. 😅
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I actually tried to find some, but they don't have official ones - so maybe it's better to leave them out.
For clean code I was thinking about using that one from uncle bob, but I'm not sure how familiar people are with that.
Does it look wrong with that icon?
It's at least correct, because I refer to Uncle Bob's school. With "Design Pattern" I mean the GoF book ones. I think there is no logo.
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It does look recognizable for sure.
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Haha... like so... Actually thinking of leaving it that way.
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Dayum. I guess you could do the same for DDD and then for TDD you could do red-green-refactor cycle or something.
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It certainly helps to get this line a bit more straight
💡"REST" can also be called "RESTful" (it means the same I think)
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REST I would honestly just leave out. Feels like such an obvious tech it’s barely worth mentioning. Unless maybe you feel like this is one of your outstanding skills. 🤔
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No, it isn't. It's a filler.
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I can rest 😴
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REST is like Gradle, TDD & Git something I left out in the first version, because I feel it's obvious.
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For TDD i would do the Transport Tycoon Deluxe logo. I know, it is TTD and not TDD, but recruiters dont know. Otherwise, an exploding SpaceX rocket
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