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Hey! Does anybody know any arch pattern without View? Without Model?

What do you need the pattern for if you have no View and no Model?

Just wondering if there any arch without View in the name.

I argue that if it has `view` in the name it’s probably not an architecture in the first place, just an architectural pattern. Architectures rarely contain `view` in the name, and are broader in scope than just defining communication between business logic and the view. For example <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architectural_pattern>

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CLEAN doesn't have View in its name, but it still does contain a vague reference to View and Model. To be fair, I'm not sure if you can call it a pattern if you compare it to more strictly defined patterns like MVVM, etc...

Only `view` in Clean refers to the entire layer, and you can implement Clean architecture with MVVM, MVP or any other presentational pattern in place of that view. That’s why I’m saying the usual `MV*` aren’t architectures, because they describe just one piece of the entire system