Are there any plans to enter the Flutter universe ...
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uli
06/29/2018, 7:22 PMAre there any plans to enter the Flutter universe with Kotlin?
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gildor
06/30/2018, 4:25 AMI would better invest to some multiplatfrom UI framework Android + K/N iOS based on platform native views
Rather to completely new technology stack with custom VM that supported only by beta version of not so popular language
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cedric
06/30/2018, 5:33 PM@uli What would be the point of that?
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uli
06/30/2018, 5:36 PMI was just wondering if Google might invest in Kotlin for Flutter. I think basing a new environment like Flutter on a language that has been dead for years already might be a mistake that Google might have realized
uli
06/30/2018, 5:38 PMI don't consider Flutter a bad thing. But going back from Kotlin to Dart seems wrong
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cedric
06/30/2018, 5:39 PMI really don't see the point in Kotlin attaching itself to a project led by a different company -- Google, when that company itself doesn't even seem to believe much into that project at all
cedric
06/30/2018, 5:39 PMNot even mentioning that Flutter seems to have zero momentum
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uli
06/30/2018, 6:11 PMI experience flutter to currently gain momentum. And if Google decided to invest in some form of integration of Kotlin i didn't think any one would want to stop them. This did not mean attaching Kotlin to Flutter.
uli
06/30/2018, 6:12 PMAnd sure i realize that there is Kotlin native for a cross platform approach which is really native
uli
06/30/2018, 6:15 PMWell look at it the other way. If you were Google and for some reason would want to add momentum to Flutter. Wouldn't it seem smart to add Kotlin support?
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cedric
06/30/2018, 6:38 PMMaybe, but Flutter is very tightly tied to Dart. That won't come off easily.
cedric
06/30/2018, 6:38 PMBut I really don't buy that 1) Flutter has momentum and 2) Google is pushing it. The only times I ever hear about it is around Google I/O once a year, when the Flutter and Dart team try to push it
cedric
06/30/2018, 6:40 PMOther than that, there is really zero appeal in Flutter. Dart is inferior to Kotlin, and the implementations still have glaring holes (passivation was still not supported last I checked) and performance issues that will not be easy to fix, if not impossible
cedric
06/30/2018, 6:40 PMAlso, the overall model, React-ish, is now under heavy scrutiny as more and more teams are moving away from it
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gildor
07/01/2018, 5:22 AMAlso interop with platform APIs is quite painful, similar to JNI. But it's quite big part of mobile development