Hey, I'm a Vaadin guy but the recent changes on it are making me re-think it... Also, if I lose Vaadin I'd be inclined to drop Spring too since I already dropped Spring-data. Any advises on a web framework to create UIs on the server-side like Vaadin that would be nice to work with Ktor?
thanks.. that never came up in my seaches... off to study it 🙂
08/03/2019, 7:02 AM
hey @Marcelus Trojahn
i was also a vaadin fan, but the latest changes are... strange, to say the least
i’ve talked with the vaadin team
they seem to have realized it
what changes made you re-think?
08/03/2019, 2:05 PM
Mainly 2 things. Firstly I think it's much heavier and slower and I don't mean after deployed, I mean during development. If I have spring-devtools enable, Vaadin always loses it's @Routes after a few reloads to the point I gave up on devtools which made my development really slower. Every run and compilation takes a lot of time now.
Also, I think it's harder to customize things. I choose Vaadin for a reason, not having to learn or deal with frontend stuff. But I find myself trying to fix my UI a lot more than developing the backend. I used to work with Thymeleaf before, so I had to do all the work, import webjars with components I wanted, dealing with Bootstrap, etc... The reason I went Vaadin was to bypass all that. But right now I feel I can't make a UI look like I want or be more responsive.