Um, just a general opinion question: does Kotlin really need ternary operator?

If you want to read more opinions, check this discussion https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/ternary-operator/2116

Thanks, tho I wanted a bit more fresh opinions

Do you think arguments changed some how? %)

Fair point :^)

I use Kotlin for about 2.5 years and never want to have ternary operator, especially now

Yeah, me neither. It's just that there's a hot discussion was set off in russian tg chat, so I referred to another source of opinions

I think mostly it’s just nagging of newcomers rather than real need to have ternary operator in the language

need? no. Would I like to have it? Yes

This is actually a really good reason do not introduce a new language feature

IMHO the lack of ternary operation is pretty good, as it pushes Java developers to use

if

as an expression, driving them from mutability/statements thinking to immutability/expressions, which generally lead to more robust software