Anyone know of any unofficial/hacky way, I can dev...

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[andylamax]

Anyone know of any unofficial/hacky way, I can develop ios/macOs apps on a linux machine using KMP??

[Big Chungus]

Hackintosh vm? 😀

[andylamax]

Googling hackintosh . . . please wait

[andylamax]

This is very interesting. Does KMP development work well with Hackintosh??

[andylamax]

Or is that for me to find out?

[darkmoon_uk]

It can work but you will burn probably several days of effort all-in to setup and maintain it... Buying a second-hand Mac Mini is a relatively cheap entry point and probably worth the money in many circumstances.

[rtsketo]

I've done it on Windows, took me some days to make it work.

Although it works, UI was very laggy and it's a very bad experience in general; if you have a second GPU and you manage macOS to recognize it without emulation, that issue would probably be gone.

After a month or so, everything was destroyed. I think I upgraded something I shouldn't by mistake, either VMware or macOS.

[darkmoon_uk]

Yep, that kind of made my point too @rtsketo, you can make it work; but you'll probably end up wishing you hadn't!

[andylamax]

@darkmoon_uk thanks for the insights. At the moment, I have financial limitations, so I can hold until I buy a mac or hack my way while waiting. This shouldn't be a permanent solution

[andylamax]

@rtsketo did you install it on VMware? or on bare metal? I am thinking if installing it on bare metal would make most of those problems go away or not. Thoughts?

[rtsketo]

They will! If you manage to find a bare metal that is supported though... Google for hackitosh compatible hardware.

If you are gonna buy a supported GPU, CPU, etc... at this point a refurbished Mac Mini is probably a better deal (and more future proof).

[rtsketo]

You are going to have better performance for any mac related development with M1 or M2 chip compared to any other CPU you would buy for Hackintosh btw.

[andylamax]

I see, then looks like stall is the better strategy after all

[magnumrocha]

Virtual Machine (VMWare)…

[Vitor Hugo Schwaab]

You can use LouisCad/CompleteKotlin in order to get iOS/Mac code completion on your Linux/Windows machine.
But building for Apple hardware and testing... it's what the folks said 😕

[Big Chungus]

Another alternative would be to use CompleteCompose to develop "blindly" and build/test your changes on gh actions macos runner.

[Big Chungus]

Although that only covers kmm part of code, you'll still need macos for swift stuff

[andylamax]

I have been doing the CompleteCompose approach but the difference of the platforms is getting wider and wider

[tapchicoma]

for virtual machine setup you could check this project: https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickemu

[tapchicoma]

and probably Jetbrains Gateway to still use UI on Linux host

[Big Chungus]

Hah, sneaky ad! 😀

[ephemient]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2022/10/compose-multiplatform-1-2-is-out/#Alternative_app_distribution_with_online_updates_via_Conveyor_by_Hydraulic was recently announced but that's really more about deployment than development

[ephemient]

can't escape the tax if you want to target 🍎 :(

[andylamax]

hahhah, I see 😄

[tapchicoma]

probabaly you could also rent a mac machine in a cloud when you need it