Wonderful thanks for the info dude much appreciated... I actually realized that I might be confusing front end and backend as I lay out the architecture for this new giant project, I ended up creating multiplatform project with jsMain, jvmMain, commonMain. My goal is to write full stack in nothing but Kotlin, with asyncronous client requests to an API. Having issues, not a gradle expert and all this stuff is so new... ATM I can't get Ktor to serve up the Kotlin generated js file called distributions/fullstack-mpp-frontend.js... I can't make it work in the app or the original example either... this tech has so much potential but I need to start writing the real software soon! Thanks again, all input appreciated.