Will jetpack compose become the kotlin web frontend solution, as is aiming ios with swiftUi and swif...

# android

[ivano]

Will jetpack compose become the kotlin web frontend solution, as is aiming ios with swiftUi and swiftWebUi?

[Tsvetozar Bonev]

I have a dream of a Kotlin compiled to WASM ui framework becoming popular

[ivano]

will see guys, for sure intellij and G will not wait competitors

[ivano]

But anyway from the crystal balls icons, I see that could be that this is the direction kotlin want to take, my 2 cents would be with ktor as backend framework

[gildor]

Isn’t swiftWebUi is just a simple ad-hoc experiment?

[gildor]

You can do something similar with Compose probably, question is “is it make sense on current state of the project or not”?

[ivano]

Does not make sense, but winner takes all

[ivano]

and will depend by the evolution of kotlin multiplatform, flutter

[gildor]

Winner of which game?

[ivano]

money game

[ivano]

a platform that become the standard for devs becomes really reach of apps

[gildor]

not really sure what you mean

[gildor]

I think there is 0 chance that any SwiftUI implementation will get significant part of web dev market

[gildor]

same for Compose

[gildor]

it will be a niche product. It’s personally really interesting for me, but I don’t believe that it will be so big player on web dev

[ivano]

reasonable what you say

[ivano]

but we have to point out that kotlin started with multiplatfom ambitions

[ivano]

for the rest nobody knows, is a fact is a thing that has huge economical consequences

[ivano]

for a long number of reasons

[Al Warren]

Just thinking out loud. Swift is an implementation detail. Why would you put that in a language?

[ivano]

all is an implementation detail, if I well understand your words

[ivano]

actually swift is between java and kotlin

[ivano]

in terms of similarity

[ivano]

is just ridiculous to write app in a different language as are so similar, if not for commercial reasons

[gildor]

Write app in a different language? What kind app?

[gildor]

I mean you already can write web apps using Kotlin, you don't need Compose for this

[gildor]

And yes, you already can write iOS app with Kotlin too, you don't need swiftui

[ivano]

you can, but why companies are still spending trillions to hire iOS and JS devs instead of few fullstack kotlin devs?

[ivano]

☝️😁

[gildor]

Because there are so many reasons, trade-offs and no part of the market where you have only one technology

[ivano]

is like saying why although exists ktor, people use kotlin in spring

[ivano]

I am going to ask in the spring group now

[ivano]

well beter no, otherwise they will screw me something as :LEGACY CODE😂

[gildor]

although exists ktor, people use kotlin in spring

I do not say about “existence”, there are many reasons and use cases, I’m talking about your “but winner takes all” which is not how it works

[gildor]

SwiftUI targets only iOS/macOS developers, Compose is obviously main (and for now the only) target is Android, and those markets are enough to invest, develop and maintain them.
All other things, like MPP, web etc are definitely nice, but I wouldn’t expect that it will “take all”, but it may “take some”

[ivano]

OK you right, is not applicable to language share indeed

[ivano]

more at startups

[ivano]

thank you for the nice conversation, really enjoyed