hi Is there any useful or popular web framework fo...

# getting-started

[Tuang]

hi
Is there any useful or popular web framework for kotlin. Something likes cakePHP or …..

[mister11]

You have Ktor and http4k, but Spring has an amazing Kotlin support

[Mike]

Micronaut has Kotlin support, and Quarkus looks very interesting (relatively new. Built on GraalVM, so very light/fast at runtime)

Depends on exactly what you want to accomplish.

[Tuang]

@mister11
@Mike
Thanks, i am familiar with ktor but Spring i never use before. I came from php and also very strange to java.
i just want to create a simple web app likes todo list or blog.
I thinks Spring is a bit heavy right?

[mister11]

Yes. If you just want to learn Kotlin, Ktor would be the best option. Spring is amazing for bigger systems, but can be too much at times

[Mike]

Heavy isn't the word I'd choose as they've broken it into many modules, but for your use case, I'd suggest looking at a less feature rich framework. Spring is great if you're building larger stuff, or need all the logging, DB access etc, and are already somewhat familiar. If you're not familiar with it, it can be very scary to start.

Ktor is likely a good choice for this.

[Tuang]

thank you guys