Does this argument really hold when the IDE already has thes

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Does this argument really hold when the IDE already has these little parameter hints

karelpeeters · Answer

I turn those hints off I hate them

Viktor Penelski · Answer

What if you are reviewing a PR outside of your IDE

tddmonkey · Answer

you don t get the hints in a PR either

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

As they said using named params allows you to see them even outside the IDE or with that option disabled On top of that you can change the order in which you re passing them

Florian · Answer

makes a lot of sense thanks

Florian · Answer

is mixing up the ordered considered acceptable practice

karelpeeters · Answer

I think so yes

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

As you name the parameters it s not a bad practice

Florian · Answer

one more thing Why does the IDE not allow unnamed parameters to the right of named ones even if they have the original order

Florian · Answer

is there any specific reason for that

karelpeeters · Answer

Interesting question it looks like C does have this <https gunnarpeipman com csharp non trailing named arguments >

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

Are you sure

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

Let me double check

karelpeeters · Answer

It s in the official 7 2 release notes as well

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

I was referring to kotlin not allowing it smile

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

IDE is not complaining with this

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

Oh sorry < Florian> mis read what you wrote

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

I read the vice versa

SiebelsTim · Answer

Named parameters also allow to override defaults without repeating preceding parameters

Sergio C. · Answer

+1

Ruckus · Answer

< Florian> My guess is because it would be confusing and could lead to unexpected inconsistencies when refactoring

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

The problem is which is the next one The one after the named one Or the first one left behind before it

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

The compiler can t guess

Ruckus · Answer

< Luca Nicoletti> Or even the one that happens to be at the given position

Ruckus · Answer

Which is why C imposes a number of limitations that basically make the feature pointless in my opinion For example if you had ``` int Volume int a int b int c return a b c ``` This is illegal ``` Volume 1 c 2 3 ``` So what s the point

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

That s the same for Kotlin slightly smiling face You can t have named parameter if not at latest ones

Ruckus · Answer

No C does allow it For example this would be allowed ``` Volume 1 b 2 3 ``` They just impose so many limits on it that it can t really be used for anything beyond glorified comments

Luca Nicoletti · Answer

The limit is the named parameter must be in the correct order

Ruckus · Answer

Not exactly but pretty close For example this is allowed as well ``` Volume b 1 a 2 3 ```

Ruckus · Answer

Basically non labeled arguments have to be in the exact position they were declared And labeled arguments must fill in gaps exactly

Ruckus · Answer

Which is rather un intuitive if you ask me You didn t even consider that option when you listed your possibilities of what it could mean It makes sense once you know the rule but very few people would guess that rule

Florian · Answer

very interesting thanks

Florian · Answer

seems to make sense then