i can't really compare. i've never coded on a mac ...

# getting-started

[Hullaballoonatic]

i can't really compare. i've never coded on a mac before. i do on some linux builds from time to time, but nothing specialized. i imagine there's a lot to be said for why so many programmers prefer to do it on macs

[diesieben07]

Trust me, it is not justified that they do. 😛

[Hullaballoonatic]

😮

[diesieben07]

Such a terrible OS 😄

[diesieben07]

Trying to use it without constantly reaching for the mouse is a nightmare.

[Hullaballoonatic]

i don't know when i came back around to microsoft, but i don't have nearly the ill will toward them i used to, and I actually like my windows machine a lot.

[Shawn]

careful bud, you’re gonna cut yourself on all that ｅｄｇｅ 😛

[Hullaballoonatic]

linux is nice, but there's so much maintenance. sometimes i just want my operating system to work for me and not me for it :S

[diesieben07]

100% with you Casey. Same for me.

[Shawn]

I think what it really boils down to for me is that macOS gives me a generally better UX than Windows for developer things and a better UX than Linux for non-developer things.

[diesieben07]

My Windows machine just works.

[Hullaballoonatic]

yeah i mean, it's unix based os so you're gonna have an advantage coding in a lot of languages

[diesieben07]

You are kidding me right? 😄 The keyboard shortcuts for window management in Windows are unmatched

[Hullaballoonatic]

but if you're doing stuff like python or java or web development, that unix base doesn't account for much that i can see?

[diesieben07]

Well, if you are doing things properly, you will do stuff in a vagrant box anyways. So it does not matter for shit what your host OS is.

[Hullaballoonatic]

haha, i love being able to open new desktops with windows tab

[diesieben07]

Yes! ctrl-shift-arrow keys is a life saver

[Shawn]

Window management keyboard shortcuts are only part of the experience lol, overall macOS doesn’t get in my way, especially when it comes to terminal things

[Hullaballoonatic]

i also really like powershell 😛

[Hullaballoonatic]

i feel like macOS would offer me the same things i largely appreciate about windows

[diesieben07]

especially when it comes to terminal things

Terminal emulators... 🤷

[diesieben07]

i also really like powershell

Go away 😛

[Hullaballoonatic]

which is just that i don't wanna have to deal with drivers and operating systems updates, and whether or not i installed the right file explorer and all that

[Shawn]

there really isn’t anything like iTerm 2 or even the standard Terminal.app for Windows

[Shawn]

ConEmu is the closest you can get, and it’s still not, like, TERM-compliant really

[Shawn]

it’s also cmd/ps by default, and I’m far less likely to find instructions for those shells than I am for bash

[diesieben07]

This is just a discussion that cannot be settled 🙂

[Shawn]

I could install WSL and set ConEmu to use that as the default shell, but at that point I am literally installing another operating system to run along with my main one

[Hullaballoonatic]

one thing i really enjoy about coding is that finding a new library or module or node is like opening a fucking christmas to me 😄 well, if a non-trivial portion of the christmas presents had hidden aids in them, but you get my point

[Hullaballoonatic]

personally i prefer to code on a smartfridge's minimal android implementation. that's where it's at. the controls are so intuitive!

[Shawn]

:really-makes-you-think: