you wager it s possible to code something shoddy up in 6 7 d

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you wager it s possible to code something shoddy up in 6 7 days

Shawn · Answer

depends on what you re doing tbh

Shawn · Answer

over the weekend I hammered out a quick shitpost ey slack bot

Shawn · Answer

took like maybe 4 hours of actual development

Conrad · Answer

it s just like a shitty app that s supposed to have some server side shit going on

nwh · Answer

Do you know Java

Conrad · Answer

hmm not really

Conrad · Answer

i m boned aren t it

Conrad · Answer

haha

Shawn · Answer

actually yeah what made you choose Kotlin for this

Conrad · Answer

teacher mentor dude was like you might wanna check this out

Shawn · Answer

Most folks who just need a basic webserver running go the Python Flask route

Conrad · Answer

hmmm

Shawn · Answer

I mean that s cool and you probably won t get stuck in any of the Java heritage trappings imo

nwh · Answer

I suggest Kotlin but that shouldn t shock you

Conrad · Answer

my partner so to speak was suggesting this thing called google firebase

Shawn · Answer

What s the project

Conrad · Answer

calendar planner kinda thing

Conrad · Answer

for like a school in a sense

Shawn · Answer

Schedulemaker

Conrad · Answer

uhhhh

Conrad · Answer

it s like supposed to get a list of events from like a school database or something

Conrad · Answer

and it s kinda like an event planner

Conrad · Answer

nothing too serious

nwh · Answer

You can definitely do that with Kotlin

Conrad · Answer

seet

Conrad · Answer

sweet

Conrad · Answer

alright so i m barking up the right tree

Shawn · Answer

just wondering why firebase specifically

Conrad · Answer

what option would you suggest

nwh · Answer

To be fair you can do that with just about any language

Conrad · Answer

full disclosure it s pretty arbitrary

Conrad · Answer

partner s made apps before and he wanted to try kotlin

Conrad · Answer

and he has some experience with firebase

Shawn · Answer

I see

Conrad · Answer

so i guess that s why we re using the two

Shawn · Answer

devil you know kinda thing

Conrad · Answer

uhhh not sure of that idiom but i think

Shawn · Answer

lol never mind it s not important

Conrad · Answer

aight but it shouldn t be too bad right

Shawn · Answer

As long as you ve got some time to spend learning yeah

Conrad · Answer

i wanna like get a clearer picture of the fuck s going on cause as it is i m throwing mud in the dark hoping to hit someone

Conrad · Answer

alright

Conrad · Answer

thanks

Conrad · Answer

i ll probably come back here in a week or so after i m done with this week s shit

Conrad · Answer

have you used firebase before

Shawn · Answer

once you ve got a feel for the language you might wanna poke around this list <https kotlin link >

Conrad · Answer

is it more pain than it s worth

Shawn · Answer

I ve used firebase like once but it was for like an instant messaging kind of application

Conrad · Answer

how was it

Shawn · Answer

Firebase Cloud Messaging was the tool we were using

Shawn · Answer

it was a little hard to wrap my head around ngl

Conrad · Answer

rip

Conrad · Answer

okay nevermind if all else fails i can always make a design prototype

Shawn · Answer

granted it was in the middle of a hackathon and we were contending with a few wildcards in the group

Conrad · Answer

wildcards

nwh · Answer

Firebase seems like a lot of extra work that will get in the way of you creating your app

nwh · Answer

I haven t used it before but it s good to stick to basics when diving into something you haven t used like a new language

Shawn · Answer

honestly I think your best bet is to get something running locally before moving to any kind of cloud platform

Conrad · Answer

hmm

Conrad · Answer

so i should just try with a clientside database first

Conrad · Answer

and seeing if i can even make a shitty app to begin with

nwh · Answer

Kotlin is really easy to start with Just make a new project in IntelliJ and start running

Conrad · Answer

hmm okay

Conrad · Answer

alright i ll try that first i m not really under any expectations to have to come up with anything decent anyways

Conrad · Answer

thanks man

Shawn · Answer

<http kotlin link> for some more tools if you need them

Conrad · Answer

aight thanks slightly smiling face

Conrad · Answer

bless y all slightly smiling face

poohbar · Answer

Honestly the delusion of you guys is incredible The idea that someone with no prior knowledge of Java nor IntelliJ has any chance banging out an Android app in Kotlin within a few hours is preposterous smile I mean all power to you Conrad I wish you luck Just don t expect that it will be easy

Shawn · Answer

Delusion s a strong word

Shawn · Answer

And nobody said anything about getting it done in a few hours

Shawn · Answer

I was under the impression that his partner might be more responsible for the Android portion of it The server side stuff is pretty simple in comparison

poohbar · Answer

It s just that the set up itself be it gradle or maven and getting used to Intellij will take at least few days

karelpeeters · Answer

Agreed it took me at least a month to learn Java understand what the hell was happening with intelij and be pestered by people on IRC trying to get me to use gradle and then get hello world working in android

poohbar · Answer

Also anecdotal evidence from the JIDEA guy here <https discuss kotlinlang org t completely stuck starting with kotlin jidea gradle 5163 59> Poor fella probably gave up and I can t blame him

karelpeeters · Answer

He s using native though which I think is still experimental