Hello everyone I have some dump question about Web Applicati

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Hello everyone I have some dump question about Web Application I m newbie in Web industry I have used `Ktor` for building my own API But I m so curious about Web Architecture between Java and Ktor So what different Web Application between building base on `java` Spring Java EE and `Kotlin` Ktor What is the relationship of Java and Kotlin when developing web What different what the same things Thanks

gildor · Answer

Ktor core doesn t use Java EE APIs Also Spring is not a part of Java EE tho can be compatible and used together Anyway if you use Ktor and you do not integrate with existing Java ee API or you don t need any integration just don t worry about it Ktor is standalone framework

gildor · Answer

Tho Ktor supports deployment as servlet so can be run on any servlet container I would just recommend you to read what particular technology provides if you want to be familiar with it but also you can just use Ktor and follow Ktor documentation

Sam · Answer

< gildor> thank you so much about it But `Ktor` must follow the same architecture diagram such as Application Server Web Server Web containers right

gildor · Answer

No

gildor · Answer

This diagram of Java EE framework

Sam · Answer

< gildor> Do you have any book s name or link to read the whole picture about Ktor Architecuture diagram which look like above picture Java EE

gildor · Answer

Ktor can be run as a servlet on this diagram

gildor · Answer

Why do you need this Just curious

gildor · Answer

There is Ktor documentation that covers features and request response flow

Sam · Answer

I want to study Web development and choose the Ktor for my feature So I need to have a knowledge about web architecture and Ktor Architecture

gildor · Answer

I mean web architecture = java ee

gildor · Answer

Java ee just set of libraries and standards

Sam · Answer

Do you have any idea to go through this knowledge or roadmap to Ktor developer Web developer

Sam · Answer

Sure I know Java EE = web architecture

gildor · Answer

What kind knowledge If you gonna learn Java EE than read Java EE docs tutorials it will not help you with Ktor it s just particular technologies stack

gildor · Answer

If you need general knowledge about server development or web services architecture there is a lot of material in Google but it also not directly related to Ktor it s just one more framework go build web services

Sam · Answer

ohm ok I got it `What kind knowledge ` the knowledge relevant to how Engine and Server work together or general knowledge for Backend

Sam · Answer

woww thanks < gildor> really appreciated your explanation

gildor · Answer

Engine

Sam · Answer

this httpClient engine

gildor · Answer

Http client is not a server it s http client

gildor · Answer

Like any other http client library just an API to simplify http requests

Sam · Answer

And these things is an environments to run Application Standalone right

gildor · Answer

Actually it s covered very well 8n official documentation <https ktor io clients http client engines html>

Sam · Answer

Thanks < gildor>

Sam · Answer

I m reading it

gildor · Answer

gt run application standalone Yes for Netty Jetty CIO not for tomcat where you run Ktor as war container

Sam · Answer

`This can be used standalone and does not need a running Tomcat server` Ref <https tomcat apache org tomcat 8 0 doc deployer howto html> = gt You mean we shouldn t use tomcat for Application Standalone because you must include `Tomcat` in package war jar right

gildor · Answer

Not sure that cited phrase related to Ktor war packaging it looks that it related on providing tomcat dependencies as part of war

Sam · Answer

thanks < gildor> You know I m newbie so I m have some confuses about We can not run application standalone with Tomcat Can you explain more about that

napperley · Answer

henry Do you really need to use a servlet container Would recommend going with a web server like Netty or Jetty with Ktor

gildor · Answer

Or even CIO engine