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orangy

06/08/2018, 8:55 PM
Now, would you say, @sdeleuze, that Spring Fu is inspired by #ktor?
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napperley

06/08/2018, 11:39 PM
Spring Fu might even be inspired by #vertx.
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nfrankel

06/09/2018, 6:35 AM
Vert.x was started by Tim Fox in 2011 while he was employed by VMware.
Spring Framework was written by Rod Johnson, who released the framework with the publication of his book Expert One-on-One J2EE Design and Development in October 2002
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sdeleuze

06/09/2018, 7:52 AM
Believe me or not, I never had a look to Ktor to avoid tentation to copy.
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nfrankel

06/09/2018, 8:21 AM
i don’t see anything in the documentation regarding integration with regular spring beans did i miss something? or does that mean that it’s all or nothing? it could ease migration a lot if there would be some integration path
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orangy

06/09/2018, 9:34 AM
@sdeleuze I see, may be you should look at ktor, there’s no problem copying, and may be you can find some ideas for better DSLs
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sdeleuze

06/09/2018, 10:45 AM
@nfrankel These are regular Spring beans. You can mix JavaConfig and functional beans if you use the right application context impl. Please create a documentation issue about that I will update the doc.
@orangy Sure I will have a look
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nfrankel

06/09/2018, 10:47 AM
@sdeleuze i’m thinking about migrating the spring pet clinic
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sdeleuze

06/09/2018, 11:18 AM
Good idea, maybe when SQL support will be available
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nfrankel

06/09/2018, 11:34 AM
and when it’s available as a standard dep 😉
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orangy

06/09/2018, 11:51 AM
Is the underlying implementation still the same? I’m wondering, because in TechEmpower Benchmarks Spring is somewhere at the bottom, and I wonder why. And if Spring Fu will have a different story.
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sdeleuze

06/09/2018, 12:17 PM
1) TechEmpower benchmark, especially the simple tests are very far from real world use cases so not really relevant. 2) Spring Fu is based on WebFlux.fn which is I believe not benchmarked yet, but Reactor and Netty super fast and scalable and WebFlux.fn is a very thin layer on top of that so I am confident 3) Spring Fu and WebFlux targets much more than just request / Reponse. We will give the SQL benchmark a try asap Reactive SQL support is finished.
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nfrankel

06/09/2018, 12:31 PM
i’d really be in a favor of a non-webflux implementation i’m afraid a lot of people already think about migrating to webflux while reactive is clearly not suited to every use-case
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sdeleuze

06/09/2018, 4:01 PM
I would agree with Reactive API only but one of the Spring Fu design principle is to provide Coroutines API as well for imperative-like programming.
So along with Reactive + Coroutines SQL support, no need for this double web engine story.