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# springs
sdeleuze
06/08/2018, 1:08 PMc
Czar
06/08/2018, 1:42 PMGraal native image supportHuh, I was just asking about this several days ago, when Dave Syer visited our office 🙂 He either didn't know about this project or was sneaky 🙂
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sdeleuze
06/08/2018, 1:44 PMHe did not know 😉
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nfrankel
06/08/2018, 1:58 PMis it only for reactive apps?
or for standard apps too?
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sdeleuze
06/08/2018, 2:50 PMNo blocking web/persistence support is provided since coroutines provides support for imperative programming.
sdeleuze
06/08/2018, 2:51 PM+ Reactive and Coroutine SQL support is coming
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nfrankel
06/08/2018, 2:53 PMgreat!
i’ll have a look
nfrankel
06/08/2018, 3:39 PMdo i understand correctly that since it’s reactive by essence
i have to use netty? (vs tomcat/jetty)
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sdeleuze
06/08/2018, 3:49 PMNope
sdeleuze
06/08/2018, 3:50 PMIn addition to Netty, Tomcat support is provided, Jetty and Undertow will be available as well
sdeleuze
06/08/2018, 3:51 PMWe have an adapter between latest Servlet async support and Reactive
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kenkyee
06/08/2018, 4:14 PMIs this going to be an option in Spring Initializr eventually? Just wondering how this fits in the Spring universe...
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sdeleuze
06/08/2018, 4:21 PMI think that's too early to answer to that question. Initializr is and will remain Boot only for now. But Spring Fu will provide tooling for easy project setup. That may be something like initializr or not. Not sure yet.
sdeleuze
06/08/2018, 4:23 PMCurrent Spring Fu status is experimental. It may graduate but we are just at the beginning of the story so we will see.
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jakub.dyszkiewicz
06/08/2018, 6:24 PMNo annotations AND support for courutines? This is amazing!
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ssouris
06/08/2018, 6:33 PMGood stuff
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jtravis
06/08/2018, 8:09 PM@sdeleuze This looks awesome — I’m going to definitely try this out right away.
jtravis
06/08/2018, 8:10 PMThe tilt away from annotations I think is a good one: developers I talk to are intimidated by all the magic associated with annotations.
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Czar
06/08/2018, 9:27 PMAnnotations hide a lot of stuff from developers, I don't like them, but alternatives are frequently worse, Kotlin DSL to the rescue 🙂
Actually, when back in 2006 I looked at java code for the first time (it was a JEE payment processing middleware) and saw annotations, my first impression was exactly that: magic 😄
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kenkyee
06/08/2018, 9:46 PMThey're generally good magic until you end up with 10 in front of something and wonder what the heck is going on 🙂
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