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todd.ginsberg
09/30/2018, 12:53 PMIf a company had a posting with something like "Salary: determined individually, but definitely above industry average", would that be indicative of "open and honest"?
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orangy
09/30/2018, 12:56 PM
Nope. If the “juice” had a text instead of a price, like “Costs less than region average”, would you still have a concern? I mean, what industry? Is it actually average or median? How do you measure?
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enleur
09/30/2018, 12:59 PMjust write down that “industry average” like 80k+ EUR, is that hard?
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todd.ginsberg
09/30/2018, 1:00 PMThis is language from JetBrains own postings. Surely, the same standards would apply on the rest of the web, not just in this channel?
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orangy
09/30/2018, 1:03 PM
I didn’t say we are not guilty 😞 If you can send me the link to the posting, I’d try to act on it. However, if it is not a specific open position or a job ad, but something on a general page like “jobs at JetBrains”, I think it’s okay. You can put a range there, but it would be really wide and useless for any purpose. I think for specific open positions we should be posting specific ranges, when location, role and responsibilities are known.
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todd.ginsberg
09/30/2018, 1:06 PMIt's here:
https://www.jetbrains.com/company/jobs/
Find any open job, it's not listed. That generic text is listed by clicking "We Offer" within every job.
todd.ginsberg
09/30/2018, 1:06 PMPersonally, I think this is totally fine. I'm just saying JB appears to have one set of rules for #hiring and one for their own hiring.
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orangy
09/30/2018, 1:09 PM
I think it’s kinda a bug 🙂 On a local hiring site we have all the ranges for same positions.
orangy
09/30/2018, 1:09 PM
I’ll check it, thanks for heads up.
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todd.ginsberg
09/30/2018, 1:09 PMFair enough! 🙂
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