# embedded-kotlin


12/08/2020, 12:34 AM
📢 If there's anyone out there, in the black inky void, holding a flame of hope for Embedded Kotlin (especially within
) then take a look at the potential here: The massively popular Espressif ESP8266 chip is getting a spiritual successor in the form of their new C3 chip. The interesting thing for Kotlin is that, whereas before the ESP8266 had a proprietary Tensilica core, the new one is RISC-V based. This implied a shift surely opens up easier pathways for a Kotlin / PlatformIO / C3 three-way cuddle puddle - a traction-gainer for sure 👍 At this point the response might be 'Kotlin isn't suitable for a platform of this small size' to which I'd say '_why shouldn't it be?_' - Kotlin/Native should theoretically be able to compile simple enough programs to MCU sizes; just as C++ scales both large and small. Maintaining Embedded as a goal, especially for the new IR compiler and linker, could bring both direct and side-benefits, on Kotlin's epic journey to platforms far and wide.
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12/08/2020, 7:30 AM
LLVM 8.0 - currently used in Kotlin/Native - did not support RISC-V Latest LLVM 11.0 supports two variants:
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riscv32    - 32-bit RISC-V
    riscv64    - 64-bit RISC-V
So this at least requires LLVM update. And better thread for this question is #kotlin-native


12/08/2020, 7:42 AM
@msink Thanks, that's good info. My post was not a question, merely highlighting an opportunity for Kotlin in the Embedded space. But yes, the #native channel are likely to know if they plan to rebase native compilation abilities on LLVM 9.0 or later, when RISC-V support was introduced - it's the right questions to ask.