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# arrow-contributors

[addamsson]

@Rachel @raulraja I had a discussion with @simon.vergauwen the other day about helping with the Arrow MPP effort. Please feel free to send me a PM / mention me if you think there is something I can contribute to in this topic.

[addamsson]

This is great!

[addamsson]

Are you planning to use the Kotlin DSL with Gradle, or Groovy?

[Rachel]

The split doesn't include a change in that sense (we'll continue with Groovy). However, we can move forward in another direction afterwards if it's necessary 👍

[simon.vergauwen]

@addamsson do you feel the Kotlin DSL has been improved so much lately that it’s worth refactoring to get more out of Gradle?

[simon.vergauwen]

I’ve tried it a couple times very early on and felt disappointed.

[addamsson]

i'm kinda conflicted

[addamsson]

I moved my projects to the Kotlin DSL

[addamsson]

because I had nice examples

[addamsson]

the docs improved a lot

[addamsson]

now there are Groovy/Kotlin kodes next to each other in a lot of the examples

[addamsson]

but some areas still need improvement

[addamsson]

for example dokka is useless

[addamsson]

so I don't think that for a project with this size the change can be justified

[addamsson]

it doesn't add much value apart from the ability to write Kotlin

[addamsson]

it is advertised that you get better code exploration features but in practice most of the code is undocumented and you're in the dark as much as before

[addamsson]

🤷

[addamsson]

i'm very disappointed with the current state of MPP in general

[addamsson]

when it works it is wonderful but you can spend weeks trying to figure out how to make it work