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I didn’t really notice that the fixture is really such a new idea. also it’s hard to see how rspec handles this because fixtures in rspec are (rails) database fixtures

RSpec DB fixtures are named I think and have special treatment. Where it has the issue I describe is the the object-graph fixture. I think it calls the fixture init function let

so let is like memoized in spek, makes sense. https://relishapp.com/rspec/rspec-core/v/2-11/docs/helper-methods/let-and-let

Yes, although it takes a symbol as a name and then dynamically magics up a lazy instance var I think

or maybe add a very short version of that article and call it “wtf fixture?”

Thanks for the feedback. I think there is definitely a need for a shorter version as part of the Minutest docs on fixtures.